Re: [orca-list] Survey about screen reader



I certainly  hope that even with prefferences being handled by gsettings we continue to have an orca prefs 
window, independent of graphical desktop 
control centers. Window managers do not have, and are unliikely to get control centers. I really like the 
current orca prefs interface, but even if this 
is greatly changed to be more consistent with other control center items it needs to be available without 
requiring people to enter a possibly 
non-existent control center.   


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  kendell clark wrote:
Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 12:39:12AM -0600

hi
This sounds like a fantastic idea. Seems like a lot of new windows users
come to linux with an idea of what orca should do, not knowing that orca
is first and foremost a screen reader. All the stuff to enable/disable
it should be done in the desktop environment, whichever one you use. I
think this is largely why joanie, luke, rob and everyone else are trying
to move orca to a gsettings based config, because all the modern
desktops and I believe most of the window managers can understand
gsettings, so it would be simple to add a "universal access" or
"accessibility" menu item to do this kind of thing. Mate and gnome
already have these, and cinnamon is developing one, so once the last
item is in place we can have desktop environment specific settings uiS
while minimizing work. If that makes any sense. Basically we'd have
gnome and mate having their own buttons, check boxes, etc to control
orca, but using orca's gsettings backend. Is that how this is going to
work? Or is orca going to provide it's own config gui and the desktops
hook into it? I'm still a little unclear on that
Thanks
Kendell clark


On 11/14/2015 10:18 PM, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
Hi,

Thanks Joanie, for this interesting answer. Would you be interested in a
table on a wiki page to have:
- Feature;
- Estimated amount of work (in hours);
- Orca core (yes/no)
- Status

It would enable to synchronize our todo list, wouldn't it? If you agree,
we can do on gnome wiki, or freedom0 wiki, or whatever.

Alternatively, we can use Orca bugzilla, but that is right I am somewhat
lost with it given the number of bugs. We also can use redmine.hypra.fr
if you want, that will be filled soon. Of course account creation is
possible.

Well if you agree, we choose the utility you prefer to work together.
I'm ready to use bugzilla too if I can have "marks" to understand what
info are relevant or not. Using Hypra's redmine would be ideal, a wiki
fine, bugzilla more difficult but I can try.


Best regards,

Le 15/11/2015 05:07, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :
Hi Jean-Philippe.

I'll add triaging all your issues to my to-do list. In the meantime, the
current favorite (Button on the panel to disable Orca with the mouse)
would not be done in Orca. It's a desktop environment thing. For
instance, in the case of gnome-shell, one can already optionally display
the accessibility button on the top bar and use the menu associated with
that button to enable/disable Orca. MATE (and other desktop
environments) could do the same thing if they chose.

--joanie

On 11/14/2015 07:04 PM, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
Hi,

Thanks Alex for this feedback.

Joanie, I put also my list here:
http://sprunge.us/HgAh

Could you have a look and tell me:
- the features related to Orca core, or rather to speech-dispatcher or
apps themselves;
- the amount of work you think needed from your acknowledge of a11y on
GNU/Linux;
- if you have these features on some plans (in bugzilla, etc), that we
should look while working to be sure we don't duplicate work.

Thanks very much for your help.

Regards,
Le 14/11/2015 23:55, Alex ARNAUD a écrit :
On 14/11/2015 23:36, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
Hence this survey:
https://framadate.org/spdBz1YDdJqmsqar

Sorry some items may be in French at the tool is on a French portal:
- Sondage=survey
- Oui=Yes
- Non=no
- Si nécessaire=if needed/necessary
- Nom=Name
- Enregistrer=Save
Thanks a lot for the good idea, the framadate tool is also available
in english.





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