Re: [orca-list] Internet

From: kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com>
To: Kyle <kyle4jesus gmail com>, orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Internet
Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 18:02:16 -0500

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HI
Nvda has been able to do this for years, yes. But you're wrong, josh.
This only, and I do mean only, works in web content. mshtml IE
internet explorer controlls, firefox, chrome, etc. This is a terminal
application we're talking about. I suspect the reason orca is very
verbose is because he's running elinks in a terminal emulator, and
orca has no way of knowing what app you're running, so it just
presents the text as it sees it. NVDA does the exact same thing.
Thanks
Kendell clark


Kyle wrote:

According to Josh K: # NVDA has been able to do this for years.

Orca will thankfully never do it the Windows way. Every Windows
screen reader known to man as far as I know takes the entirety of
the page source and reads it into a virtual buffer, essentially
replacing the browser and interacting with elements as if it is the
browser. This poses a host of problems, not the least of which are
the need to have two copies of every web page in memory and the
inability to handle dynamic content with any level of grace at all.
The goal of Orca has always been to read what the browser presents
to it directly rather than hacking itself into its own browser
supplement or replacement. Therefore, unless a different method of
navigation can be implemented that can be toggled easily, a browser
add-on will need to handle this. Please note that I have rarely
criticized in a major way the methods by which Orca does anything
at all, with the exception of some initial bugs in the focus modes,
but if it goes in the direction of virtual buffers, or even looks
like it is headed that way, I will become quite vocal in my
criticism of the way in which it works, and hopefully I won't be
the only one. Sent from my tone generator

References:
- [orca-list] Internet
  - From: MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
- Re: [orca-list] Internet
  - From: Kyle
- Re: [orca-list] Internet
  - From: Josh K
- Re: [orca-list] Internet
  - From: Kyle

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