Hello,
I am sorry I've used the word mode where it is not appropriate at all. By saying proof reading mode I've implicitly caused you to expect another mode which might complement focus and browse mode. I think focus vs browse mode is a kind of a toggle and no more switches should be added into this set of switches. This proof reading thing is something that will most likelly dramatically affect performance. So I expect an option saying something like Report text attributes after the cursor in the screen reader preferences window, hopefully on the text attributes tab. It should be disabled by default. You can then enable it when you need it. You might also like to create proofreading settings profile where you would also like to adjust speech parameters and even something else. So this is where existing feature settings profiles comes into play.
Anyway this is just how I am imagining this feature. I don't know all the platform specific details and accessibility API's features, so if at all and how it will be implemented we will see as Joanie gets to it.
Thanks and greetings
Peter
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hi
I agree with peter. I'm curious how this proofreading mode will work.
Will it be a separate mode, like browse mode and focus mode, activated
via a keystroke, or a mode that orca enters into automatically when a
particular application or document is opened? Or will it be all of
them, configurable by the individual user? Regardless of the answer, I
can't wait to try this out.
Thanks
Kendell clark
Peter Vágner wrote:
> Hello, This message most likelly comes late as I assume
> implementation of this has already started but I'll try to describe
> what I like anyway.
>
> Currently within screen reader preferences dialog on the text
> attributes tab we do have a list with checkable items representing
> text attributes e.g. font family, underline, bold, foreground /
> background color etc. What is checked in this list is being
> examined on the current caret position and reported when pressing
> orca+f keyboard shortcut inside a document. I think when orca+f is
> pressed all the attributes orca can retrieve should be reported.
> This list however should stay there and instead controlling what
> is reported on orca+f key press it should control what will be
> reported in this so called proof reading mode. It should be
> reported in speech and most likelly in braille as well. I don't own
> a braille device so I can't give better suggestion on braille. But
> when reporting in speech I imagine it to work like this.
>
> Imagine we do have the following text Hello, This is bold and this
> is blue. The word bold is written in bold and the foreground color
> of word blue is blue.
>
> If the default color is black, we do have foreground color and
> bold checked within the list I am tallking about all the time then
> reading this line should yeeld the following via speech Hello, This
> is bold bold no bold and this is blue blue black.
>
> When navigating by characters or other units this should also
> apply meaning orca will always query the formatting on the current
> caret position and it should compare it to the formatting on the
> previous caret position. So for example when navigating over these
> three words within the same formatted text is bold and by character
> you will get something like i s space bold b o l d no bold space a
> n d
>
> This might be difficult to explain so if you think I should
> describe it in other words or give more examples please ask. What I
> like is highly inspired by how NVDA is working on windows.
>
> Thanks and greetings
>
> Peter
>
> On 28.07.2015 at 15:21 Fernando Botelho wrote:
>> Joanie,
>>
>> My suggestion would be to have Orca indicate capitalization.
>> Saying cap or beeping is too annoying to have it happen all the
>> time. But if that could be on by default on a proofreading mode,
>> it would be great.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Fernando
>>
>>
>> On 07/28/2015 08:26 AM, Milton wrote:
>>> It will be great to have proofreading! Orca can left out words
>>> like 'is, and, but, not underlined'. Many thanks. Milton
>>>
>>> Op 28-07-15 om 01:53 schreef Joanmarie Diggs:
>>>> Hey all.
>>>>
>>>> I'm implementing some proofreading features in Orca:
>>>>
>>>> 1. A "list of" dialog for quick review and navigation of
>>>> text attributes.
>>>>
>>>> 2. An option to have attributes read along with the text.
>>>>
>>>> With respect to the second one, consider the following
>>>> example:
>>>>
>>>> Text: "Hello world! This is a very shiny test."
>>>>
>>>> Formatting: * "world" is bold * "is" is italics * "very" is
>>>> underlined and orange * "shiny" is orange (but not
>>>> underlined)
>>>>
>>>> What should Orca say if this proofreading option is enabled?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks! --joanie
>>>> _______________________________________________ orca-list
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>>>> http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The
>>>> manual is at
>>>> http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
>>>>
>>>>
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
>>>> Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
>>>> Find out how to help at
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>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________ orca-list
>>> mailing list orca-list gnome org
>>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit
>>> http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The
>>> manual is at
>>> http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
>>>
>>>
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
>>> Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find
>>> out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
>>
>> _______________________________________________ orca-list mailing
>> list orca-list gnome org
>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit
>> http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The
>> manual is at
>> http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
>>
>>
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
>> Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find
>> out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
>
> _______________________________________________ orca-list mailing
> list orca-list gnome org
> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit
> http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual
> is at
> http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
>
>
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out
> how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
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