Re: [orca-list] How should Orca present text attributes in "proofreading" mode?

[kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com>]

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512

hi
I agree with peter. I'm curious how this proofreading mode will work.
Will it be a separate mode, like browse mode and focus mode, activated
via a keystroke, or a mode that orca enters into automatically when a
particular application or document is opened? Or will it be all of
them, configurable by the individual user? Regardless of the answer, I
can't wait to try this out.
Thanks
Kendell clark


Peter Vágner wrote:
> Hello, This message most likelly comes late as I assume
> implementation of this has already started but I'll try to describe
> what I like anyway.
>
> Currently within screen reader preferences dialog on the text
> attributes tab we do have a list with checkable items representing
> text attributes e.g. font family, underline, bold, foreground /
> background color etc. What is checked in this list is being
> examined on the current caret position and reported when pressing
> orca+f keyboard shortcut inside a document. I think when orca+f is
> pressed all the attributes orca can retrieve should be reported. 
> This list however should stay there and instead controlling what
> is reported on orca+f key press it should control what will be
> reported in this so called proof reading mode. It should be
> reported in speech and most likelly in braille as well. I don't own
> a braille device so I can't give better suggestion on braille. But
> when reporting in speech I imagine it to work like this.
>
> Imagine we do have the following text Hello, This is bold and this
> is blue. The word bold is written in bold and the foreground color
> of word blue is blue.
>
> If the default color is black, we do have foreground color and
> bold checked within the list I am tallking about all the time then
> reading this line should yeeld the following via speech Hello, This
> is bold bold no bold and this is blue blue black.
>
> When navigating by characters or other units this should also
> apply meaning orca will always query the formatting on the current
> caret position and it should compare it to the formatting on the
> previous caret position. So for example when navigating over these
> three words within the same formatted text is bold and by character
> you will get something like i s space bold b o l d no bold space a
> n d
>
> This might be difficult to explain so if you think I should
> describe it in other words or give more examples please ask. What I
> like is highly inspired by how NVDA is working on windows.
>
> Thanks and greetings
>
> Peter
>
> On 28.07.2015 at 15:21 Fernando Botelho wrote:
> > Joanie,
> >
> > My suggestion would be to have Orca indicate capitalization.
> > Saying cap or beeping is too annoying to have it happen all the
> > time. But if that could be on by default on a proofreading mode,
> > it would be great.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Fernando
> >
> >
> > On 07/28/2015 08:26 AM, Milton wrote:
> > > It will be great to have proofreading! Orca can left out words
> > > like 'is, and, but, not underlined'. Many thanks. Milton
> > >
> > > Op 28-07-15 om 01:53 schreef Joanmarie Diggs:
> > > > Hey all.
> > > >
> > > > I'm implementing some proofreading features in Orca:
> > > >
> > > > 1. A "list of" dialog for quick review and navigation of
> > > > text attributes.
> > > >
> > > > 2. An option to have attributes read along with the text.
> > > >
> > > > With respect to the second one, consider the following
> > > > example:
> > > >
> > > > Text: "Hello world! This is a very shiny test."
> > > >
> > > > Formatting: * "world" is bold * "is" is italics * "very" is
> > > > underlined and orange * "shiny" is orange (but not
> > > > underlined)
> > > >
> > > > What should Orca say if this proofreading option is enabled?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks! --joanie 
> > > > _______________________________________________ orca-list
> > > > mailing list orca-list gnome org 
> > > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit
> > > > http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The
> > > > manual is at 
> > > > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> > > > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org 
> > > > Find out how to help at
> > > > http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________ orca-list
> > > mailing list orca-list gnome org 
> > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit
> > > http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The
> > > manual is at 
> > > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> > > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find
> > > out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
> >
> > _______________________________________________ orca-list mailing
> > list orca-list gnome org 
> > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit
> > http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The
> > manual is at 
> > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find
> > out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
>
> _______________________________________________ orca-list mailing
> list orca-list gnome org 
> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit
> http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual
> is at 
> http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out
> how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2
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=UEnT
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----