Re: [orca-list] Programers guide for Orca development

[Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com>]

Wow, quite a thread.  Caused a bit of a stir.

Jason:  This poster illustrates the difference between what should be 
possible and what is.  It SHOULD be possible for someone who knows 
Python to extrapolate what needs to be done via a debug file and no 
documentation.  HOwever, not everyone can and those who can say it takes 
too long.  So, dev docs are a valuable commodity if you want code 
contributions.

Jose:  Thank you for being willing to step up and provide basic 
scripting guidance.  Don't worry, we  can polish what you write just 
fine.  And, if I'm ever in Brazil as I have wanted to visit for so long 
now, I'll totally get you some beer.  I learned Portuguese as a boy from 
some very good Brazilian friends from Pernambuco and others from Sao 
Paulo and Rio.  I can't write it very well but, I can speak it and read 
it just fine.  Being a native speaker of Spanish and having an aptitude 
for languages made it pretty easy to pick up. So, between your English 
and my bad Portuguese, todo vai sair bem, camara!

Alex M


On 12/29/2014 08:17 PM, kendell clark wrote:
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> hi
> I'll chime in myself here. I've tried a few times to pick up orca,
> much as I tried to pick up nvda back when I used windows, and always
> eventually gave up. This isn't because of orca itself, but rather the
> layored and sometimes convoluted method of getting orca to speak
> anything. You'd think setting something as an icon and setting it's
> role would be enough, but it seems at-spi has to get exactly what it
> wants or orca has no fallback, and therefore speaks nothing. So this
> isn't orca itself, but the layor beneath it that defeated me. There is
> some sparce documentation on at-spi but it's so geeky it's way over my
> head. If I could understand at-spi I could go a long way towards
> implementing something like that nvda speaking thing I've been
> wanting. Just making orca speak text through at-spi, bypassing the
> entire dbus mess, which is yet another thing I have to try to understand
> Thanks
> Kendell clark
>
>
> B. Henry wrote:
> > Good points as well. Of course it's always best to get applications
> > to have code that complies with best accessibility practices, but
> > that being said not only might it sometimes be easier  to work
> > around issues if an app is not that well written, and I suspect
> > there will be times when lead devs may not be willing to accept
> > accessibility patches sadly, and at least for a time orca may have
> > to give more than it really ideally would. Also there are
> > relatively minor, but potentially rather helpful features that a
> > less than stellar coder could probably add to Orca, e.g. the
> > progress-bar beeps that have been discussed here a couple of times.
> >   I suspect there's plenty of work to go around in c++, python and
> > other languages...smiles
> >
> >
> >
> >
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