Re: [orca-list] GUI Redesign or clearup and modernization

[chrys87 <chrys87 web de>]

Howdy,

nomnom :) a redesign is a fully redesigned new GUI. so almost written 
from scratch. newly designed code, and maybe layout (i looks really 
stalled, i do not use orca often. but my girlfriend do, she dont like it 
because a "card layout" its not the best in things of navigation. I 
agree with her that a more "list" orientated layout would be more 
efficient (also in things like we are more able to keep things more 
generic in the codebase, what lead to more easy contribution to orca).

 A "clearup and modernization" its mosstly clean up the really stalled 
code ( its hard to integrate some new things, thats what i learned in my 
work on the orca beeps). no real name convention, confuse names 
(combobox1, combobox2, combobox3), fix warnings while start the GUI, 
port to more current techniques. :).

Yes i fully agree to you opinion that the orca settings should also 
available without and control center AND on any DE or WM. but we could/ 
should it make more integrable in things of look and feel. So it !could! 
be included as panel in a central way. whe sould not cut of the 
posiblity to run the settings without an Control Center ( my opinion).
forking orca??? no way... we have to fight together :).

I m currently working on a mocup with a new layout. i think its more 
smart, open and clear.
Took a look at this before you will hate it :). I will share it if i 
finished that. (could take 1 -2 weeks)
i m shure you would like it :).

cheers chrys

Am 27.08.2015 um 22:09 schrieb Zahari Yurukov:
> Hi,
> I would like to return to the topic, which is described in the subject line.
> I have some fears regarding this, and they have been mentioned from some
> of the participants in this discussion, but I would like to summarise
> them from my point of view.
>
> Firstly, what do you mean by "Redesign or clearup and modernization"? I
> like the current design and I don't think that there is something which
> should be removed. Do you think something is missing? So let's discusse
> this.
>
> Also, I'm very sceptical about moving the Orca settings into GNOME
> Control Center. Why is this nesessary? What benefits will this give us?
> Wouldn't it make configuring Orca harder from the users point of view?
>
> And what about other desktop enviroments? If eventually the other
> desktops, which are based on GNOME, some day manage to catch up, what
> about the others like XFCE, LXDE/LXQT, KDE etc.?
> I like GNOME 3, much more than GNOME 2, and use it every day, but what
> if I some day would like to change it? Of course I'm very greatfull to
> the GNOME guys, without who the accessibility of the Linux GUI would
> have been very questionable, but I thought that Orca became not only a
> screen reader for GNOME, but for every desktop enviroment.
> Forking is possible of course, but I think that deviding the project
> would not give us much benefit, cause there are very few people who have
> the knolage to work on this kind of stuff already, and that will leed to
> duplication, instead of those people working together.
>
> Best wishes,
> Zahari
>
> На 27.08.2015 в 03:20, Alex Midence написа:
> > I have found quite reliable and extremely effective these last 10 years.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Aug 26, 2015, at 5:33 PM, Kyle <kyle4jesus gmail com> wrote:
> > >
> > > God no! Please no virtual buffers! That's about the worst thing any
> > > screen reader has ever done. That wasn't an innovation. The innovation
> > > and advancement was in Orca flat out refusing to implement virtual
> > > buffering, which not only makes the screen reader less clunky and
> > > unwieldy, but greatly improves the overall browsing experience as well.
> > >
> > > Sent from my convertable with the top down
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