Re: [orca-list] Changing speech synth

[kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com>]

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hi
Unfortunately, pressing up and down in the combo box still lags just
as much as expanding it first. Luke is supposed to be working on a
proper varients api in speech-dispatcher, but would it be possible to
temporarily add a varients combo box to separate out the varients from
the voices in espeak? I'm not sure how you can have orca determine
which synthesizer is being used, so if this is a serious pain then
please disregard it.
Thanks
Kendell clark


Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> Hey Kendell.
>
> Aha! The difference between what you are doing and what I am doing
> seems to be expanding the combo box. Are things better if you give
> the combo box focus and just up/down arrow to change the selection
> (i.e. don't press Space first)?
>
> When you expand a combo box, each menu item that claims to be
> showing emits an accessible event. When you expand or collapse a
> combo box with 3000+ items, there's an event flood. Orca used to
> process each one of those events like any other event; now Orca
> doesn't do that. Instead, Orca rejects that event almost
> immediately. Grep through your debug.out. I did (having renamed
> it):
>
> $ grep -r "Who cares?" kendell.out | grep "menu item" | wc -l 6842
>
> The proper fix is to not have 3000+ item combo boxes. :) I believe
> Luke is working on exposing variants via proper API in
> speech-dispatcher which I can then add support for in Orca. That
> way, even users who enable the variants manually won't wind up with
> combo boxes as huge as yours.
>
> --joanie
>
> On 08/05/2015 06:18 PM, kendell clark wrote:
> > hi I have something like 3000 items, but I have a lot of varients
> > from the nvda screen reader on windows in my espeak varients
> > folder. I can send you my espeak folder if you like, or my
> > varients folder. All you need to do then is just copy that into 
> > /usr/share/espeak-data/voices/!v, since there's no easy way to
> > get those varients for now. About the nautilus issue, the bug
> > seems fixed. Orca is no longer slow when looking through huge
> > icon containers. It does still take two or 3 seconds to load the
> > folder and for orca to begin navigating, but once that happens
> > orca is extremely responsive.Debug file is attached. If you want
> > I can get one for nautilus but I'm suspecting nautilus and not
> > orca. Thanks Kendell clark
> >
> >
> > Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > Hi Kendell.
> >
> > > No, I enabled them. I have 1401 items in that combo box. Do I
> > > need more?
> >
> > > --joanie
> >
> > > On 08/05/2015 06:11 PM, kendell clark wrote:
> > > > hi Absolutely, debug.out file coming up. I'll check to make 
> > > > absolutely sure that bug is fixed and if so, I'll close it. 
> > > > Please note. The slowness of the preferences dialog only
> > > > shows up if you have espeak varients turned on. Since you use
> > > > fedora, you probably have the newest speech-dispatcher, but
> > > > varients are turned off by default. If you want to test this,
> > > > open up /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules/espeak.conf up in your
> > > > favorite text editor, and search for varients. It's set to 0
> > > > by default, which is disabled. Change that to a 1 and then
> > > > killall speech-dispatcher. Then open up the preferences
> > > > dialog. Anyway, debug.out file coming up. You want me to send
> > > > it to you personally, right?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Kendell clark
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > > > Hi Kendell.
> > > >
> > > > > On 08/05/2015 06:02 PM, kendell clark wrote:
> > > > > > I've just pulled from master. I can't see any
> > > > > > difference, except that now instead of the preference
> > > > > > dialog closing when escape is pressed, it waits until the
> > > > > > "application not responding" dialog comes up,
> > > >
> > > > > Really? I'm not seeing that. Could you get me a full 
> > > > > debug.out?
> > > >
> > > > > > But on the plus side, this helps a lot when in nautilus
> > > > > > with lots of icons, like in very large folders.
> > > >
> > > > > Does that mean that I've fixed this bug for you? 
> > > > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746494
> > > >
> > > > > --joanie
> > > >
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> > > > http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The 
> > > > manual is at 
> > > > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
> >
> > > >
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