Re: [orca-list] Changing speech synth

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

Hey Kendell.

Aha! The difference between what you are doing and what I am doing seems
to be expanding the combo box. Are things better if you give the combo
box focus and just up/down arrow to change the selection (i.e. don't
press Space first)?

When you expand a combo box, each menu item that claims to be showing
emits an accessible event. When you expand or collapse a combo box with
3000+ items, there's an event flood. Orca used to process each one of
those events like any other event; now Orca doesn't do that. Instead,
Orca rejects that event almost immediately. Grep through your debug.out.
I did (having renamed it):

$ grep -r "Who cares?" kendell.out | grep "menu item" | wc -l
6842

The proper fix is to not have 3000+ item combo boxes. :) I believe Luke
is working on exposing variants via proper API in speech-dispatcher
which I can then add support for in Orca. That way, even users who
enable the variants manually won't wind up with combo boxes as huge as
yours.

--joanie

On 08/05/2015 06:18 PM, kendell clark wrote:
> hi
> I have something like 3000 items, but I have a lot of varients from
> the nvda screen reader on windows in my espeak varients folder. I can
> send you my espeak folder if you like, or my varients folder. All you
> need to do then is just copy that into
> /usr/share/espeak-data/voices/!v, since there's no easy way to get
> those varients for now. About the nautilus issue, the bug seems fixed.
> Orca is no longer slow when looking through huge icon containers. It
> does still take two or 3 seconds to load the folder and for orca to
> begin navigating, but once that happens orca is extremely
> responsive.Debug file is attached. If you want I can get one for
> nautilus but I'm suspecting nautilus and not orca.
> Thanks
> Kendell clark
>
>
> Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > Hi Kendell.
>
> > No, I enabled them. I have 1401 items in that combo box. Do I need
> > more?
>
> > --joanie
>
> > On 08/05/2015 06:11 PM, kendell clark wrote:
> > > hi Absolutely, debug.out file coming up. I'll check to make
> > > absolutely sure that bug is fixed and if so, I'll close it.
> > > Please note. The slowness of the preferences dialog only shows up
> > > if you have espeak varients turned on. Since you use fedora, you
> > > probably have the newest speech-dispatcher, but varients are
> > > turned off by default. If you want to test this, open up
> > > /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules/espeak.conf up in your favorite
> > > text editor, and search for varients. It's set to 0 by default,
> > > which is disabled. Change that to a 1 and then killall 
> > > speech-dispatcher. Then open up the preferences dialog. Anyway, 
> > > debug.out file coming up. You want me to send it to you
> > > personally, right?
> > >
> > > Thanks Kendell clark
> > >
> > >
> > > Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > > Hi Kendell.
> > >
> > > > On 08/05/2015 06:02 PM, kendell clark wrote:
> > > > > I've just pulled from master. I can't see any difference,
> > > > > except that now instead of the preference dialog closing when
> > > > > escape is pressed, it waits until the "application not
> > > > > responding" dialog comes up,
> > >
> > > > Really? I'm not seeing that. Could you get me a full
> > > > debug.out?
> > >
> > > > > But on the plus side, this helps a lot when in nautilus with
> > > > > lots of icons, like in very large folders.
> > >
> > > > Does that mean that I've fixed this bug for you? 
> > > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746494
> > >
> > > > --joanie
> > >
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