Re: [orca-list] F123 available for download - easy switch to

[Fernando Botelho <Fernando Botelho F123 org>]

I understand and share the interest in using Mate, and as long as these 
issues get resolved, I will include it in F123.

My only disagreement with what was said is that I consider these major 
issues for non-technical users rather than minor ones.

Fernando

On 09/29/2014 04:17 PM, Kyle wrote:
> MATE 1.8.1 is definitely good, and there is a Sonar panel layout that
> can be added in the same way it has been integrated into Sonar. The main
> problem is the lack of a talking display manager that doesn't a. cause
> the kernel to trap Orca and keep it from running when the desktop
> starts, b. pull in more than half of GNOME 3 along with it, including
> gnome-shell itself, or c. pull in a ton of AUR packages including Unity.
> This is exactly the reason why a MATE spin of Sonar hasn't gone past
> alpha at this point. We need to be able to figure out what exactly a
> kernel trap is, and why it keeps Orca from running beyond the
> lightdm-gtk-greeter and mdm, which is a fork of an older gdm that
> doesn't pull in gnome-shell, or we need to be able to give another
> display manager such as lxdm or slim the ability to start Orca and talk
> to it in order to use MATE in the same way we currently use GNOME, both
> in F123 and in Sonar. Until then, we're fairly limited in what we can
> do, although if you can get GNOME running, it is possible to install
> MATE and switch to it in the default login, although this is certainly
> not ideal.
> ~Kyle
> http://kyle.tk/