Re: [orca-list] F123 available for download - easy switch to

["B. Henry" <burt1iband gmail com>]

Why not just use the 1.8 packages available in  standard arch official repos?
Yes, there are _a _few minor accessibility issues, but these should not effect the average user.
I've not seen what log-in system, (dm), is used by current F123, but as long as one could switch between 
environments there there should be no problem. 
A script to change default could be included.
I have had a very major setback which means I'm spending a lot of time to recreate my customized arch system 
and recupperate/redo as much of my last 
year's work as possible, but once I'm more or less caught up want to look at how to include a customized set 
of defaults for panels untill multiple 
panels can be focused by orca. 
If the two panel default could be changed to a single panel, probably located on the bottom, I can't think of 
anything that would be even slightly 
problematic even for novice users with the current mate. 
I do not know what the timetable is for fixing the panel focus issue, but not only would this make F123 a 
more viable option for less robust hardware, 
but it would make transition from older f123 smoother as there'd not be the need to learn and adapt ones 
computing style to gnome3. 
And with out getting back in to the debate as to what is a better interface, it is clear that many users do 
prefer a menu-driven GUI such as is used by 
Mate or XFCE over the more search-driven interfaces such as gnome shell. This prefference is notable both for 
Linux novices and power-users, those new 
to computers altogether and those coming from a Windows background. 
I am not suggesting removing gnome as an option by any means as it has its fans and is going to be where 
accessibility improvements will first come to 
the Linux GUI in some cases, but including Mate seems to be a no brainer to me. 
Regards,
--
B.H.


On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 01:43:17PM -0300, Fernando Botelho wrote:
> Apologies for your difficulties.
>
> The default version of F123 uses Gnome Shell, so it will not work on older
> computers. We are looking for ways to support Mate development so that we
> can offer a version that works on older machines.
>
> Fernando
>
> On 09/27/2014 11:47 AM, Glenn wrote:
> > I had a similar, if not the same,  problem installing F123 on my Asus 701
> > notebook.
> > It has a Celeron M 900 MHZ processor and 1 GB of RAM.
> > It has a 4GB SD, but I was just trying a live session to try it out.
> > I was running it from an SD card.
> > I installed it onto the card with Universal USB and I selected Arch Manderan
> > or whatever that name is.
> > I will try the SD card on another computer, but it looked like the attempt
> > to boot was okay, indicating that my USB burn was okay, as when that goes
> > bad, my boot attempts land on a black screen.
> > I hope this can run on X86 computers.
> >
> > Glenn
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 14:07:51 +0200
> > From: "Mgr. Janusz Chmiel" <ernesta tiscali cz>
> > To: orca-list gnome org
> > Subject: Re: [orca-list] F123 available for download - easy switch to
> > Orca Master
> > Message-ID: <54255717 7090005 tiscali cz>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> >
> > Dear sir,
> > Very good job, but i Am very unhappy, because live system do not work on
> > IBM Thinkpad T43 2668 with 512 MB of RAM.
> > I have also tested with notebook Model: Toshiba Satellite L650D
> > System type: x64-based PC
> > BIOS: Insyde Corp. (version: 1.80; date: 29.6.2011)
> >    Manufacturer: Insyde Corp.
> >    Version: 1.80
> >    Date: 29.6.2011
> > Serial number: 5A195197Q
> > Motherboard: TOSHIBA (Portable PC; version: Base Board Version)
> >    Manufacturer: TOSHIBA
> >    Product: Portable PC
> >    Version: Base Board Version
> > Chassis: Notebook
> > Processor: AMD Turion(tm) II P520 Dual-Core Processor (architecture:
> > x64; 2300 MHz)
> >    Name: AMD Turion(tm) II P520 Dual-Core Processor
> >
> > My sighted mother found out, that there is proggress bar which start to
> > stop on position 5, virtual consoles are working but X server can not be
> > loaded, no desktop.
> > I can not login to virtual consoles by typing user name
> > sonar
> > passwords
> > onar
> >
> > Very strange.
> > I have checked .iso file with 7zip iso check feature and it works
> > perfectly, and this algorithm did not find corrupted .iso image.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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