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Re: [orca-list] XP-Like Ubuntu security question

Although you are certainly corret that there are separate package names, I've not had to run dist upgrade to 
update my 
kernel. 
The problem, is not with repos, yes most are the same, with an extra one or three added in my limited 
experience with 
remixes, well, Vinux experience is pretty good/extensive, but sometimes with the way things are pinned to 
hold required 
versions, or packages for the remix to work. 
A dist upgrade may break those pinnings, and upgrade or replace required packages. 
It's release upgrade that upgrades the release in Ubuntu unless I'm really mixed up, sorry about misstating 
that a couple 
posts back.

 
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 02:54:56PM -0430, Luis González wrote:

Generally, Ubuntu remixes have the same repositories as standard
Ubuntus, but they comes with certain presets (preinstalled packages,
settings, etc).

I don't think a dist-upgrade would break anything.  Actually, in
Ubuntu, dist-upgrade is almost mandatory. If you don't use it, some
programs won't be upgraded. I suppose dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade
Ubuntu version because Ubuntu isn't a rolling-release distro.

In my kernels example, 2.6.32-21 and 2.6.32-65 belongs to the same
main branch but each kernel has its own package name, e.g.
linux-image-2.6.32-65-generic; which allows you to have installed
different kernel versions. I don't know how this works in Debian (I'm
curious) but I suppose Debian holds same package names for kernels
which belong to the same branch.

2014-09-13 13:19 GMT-04:30, B. Henry <burt1iband gmail com>:

I never had to run distupgrade to update the kernel as long as it's still in
the same main branch, e.g. 2.6.32 in the case
at hand.
I never ran distupgrade at all with Vinux or Ubuntu until Vinux4 where there
were actual changes to package names, i.e. a
new package took over some task replaciing something.
I ran distupgrade in Debian, but as part of upgrading from squeeze to weasy.
Think it's distupgrade in debian, but release
upgrade sticks in my mind for either ubuntu or debian.
Anyway, I'm lnot sure that he's using stock ubuntu, thought he was using one
of those no longer supported interfaces made
to resemble windows, and it's likely that distupgrade will break anything
special that they did, but not sure one way or
another.

On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 11:27:15AM -0430, Luis González wrote:

"dist-upgrade" does not upgrade the distro to a newer version, at
least not in Ubuntu. It just upgrade Software which version has been
changed and need to install new packages. For instance, the Kernel is
upgraded  from 2.6.32-21 to 2.6.32-65

2014-09-13 10:20 GMT-04:30, B. Henry <burt1iband gmail com>:

not distupgrade, at least I don't think you want that.
He doesn't want to upgrade to a newer Ubuntu, just keep 10.04 as
together as
possible for it's last year of support.

On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 10:13:57AM -0430, Luis González wrote:

Hey Glenn

Ubuntu 10.04 should check automatically for security updates. If not,
you can set update preferences in System -> Administration -> Software
sources. You can also do it manually with the commands:
sudo apt-get update
and then:
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

2014-09-13 9:45 GMT-04:30, Glenn <glennervin cableone net>:

Hi,
How do I go about setting up Ubuntu 10.04 to automatically check for
security updates?
Thanks.
Glenn

Message: 1
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:48:16 -0430
From: Luis Gonz?lez <luisg123v gmail com>
To: "Mgr. Janusz Chmiel" <ernesta tiscali cz>
Cc: Glenn <glennervin gmail com>, orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] XP-Like Ubuntu security question
Message-ID:
<CABOLRqpHk=ztby9bT7h98-gfQoxg=AZM++C_OZRhZFh-+Vv7_A mail gmail com>

I'm using various Linux versions, including Ubuntu 10.04. Although
it's currently supported for servers (it receives security updates,
so
the security shouldn't be a problem), the main problem is you can't
(or it's much harder) install new software, e.g. a roughly newer
versions of Transmission, Libreoffice, pidgin, wine and others; in
most cases, you'll need to compile the software  yourself.

On the other hand, if you use unsupported versions like Ubuntu
8.*/10.10, you'll be exposed to new vulnerabilities, e.g.
Heartbleed;
so yes, security could  actually be something to consider.


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