Re: [orca-list] XP-Like Ubuntu security question

[Luis González <luisg123v gmail com>]

Generally, Ubuntu remixes have the same repositories as standard
Ubuntus, but they comes with certain presets (preinstalled packages,
settings, etc).

I don't think a dist-upgrade would break anything.  Actually, in
Ubuntu, dist-upgrade is almost mandatory. If you don't use it, some
programs won't be upgraded. I suppose dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade
Ubuntu version because Ubuntu isn't a rolling-release distro.

In my kernels example, 2.6.32-21 and 2.6.32-65 belongs to the same
main branch but each kernel has its own package name, e.g.
linux-image-2.6.32-65-generic; which allows you to have installed
different kernel versions. I don't know how this works in Debian (I'm
curious) but I suppose Debian holds same package names for kernels
which belong to the same branch.

2014-09-13 13:19 GMT-04:30, B. Henry <burt1iband gmail com>:
> I never had to run distupgrade to update the kernel as long as it's still in
> the same main branch, e.g. 2.6.32 in the case
> at hand.
> I never ran distupgrade at all with Vinux or Ubuntu until Vinux4 where there
> were actual changes to package names, i.e. a
> new package took over some task replaciing something.
> I ran distupgrade in Debian, but as part of upgrading from squeeze to weasy.
> Think it's distupgrade in debian, but release
> upgrade sticks in my mind for either ubuntu or debian.
> Anyway, I'm lnot sure that he's using stock ubuntu, thought he was using one
> of those no longer supported interfaces made
> to resemble windows, and it's likely that distupgrade will break anything
> special that they did, but not sure one way or
> another.
>
> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 11:27:15AM -0430, Luis González wrote:
> > "dist-upgrade" does not upgrade the distro to a newer version, at
> > least not in Ubuntu. It just upgrade Software which version has been
> > changed and need to install new packages. For instance, the Kernel is
> > upgraded  from 2.6.32-21 to 2.6.32-65
> >
> > 2014-09-13 10:20 GMT-04:30, B. Henry <burt1iband gmail com>:
> > > not distupgrade, at least I don't think you want that.
> > > He doesn't want to upgrade to a newer Ubuntu, just keep 10.04 as
> > > together as
> > > possible for it's last year of support.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 10:13:57AM -0430, Luis González wrote:
> > > > Hey Glenn
> > > >
> > > > Ubuntu 10.04 should check automatically for security updates. If not,
> > > > you can set update preferences in System -> Administration -> Software
> > > > sources. You can also do it manually with the commands:
> > > > sudo apt-get update
> > > > and then:
> > > > sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
> > > >
> > > > 2014-09-13 9:45 GMT-04:30, Glenn <glennervin cableone net>:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > How do I go about setting up Ubuntu 10.04 to automatically check for
> > > > > security updates?
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > Glenn
> > > > >
> > > > > Message: 1
> > > > > Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:48:16 -0430
> > > > > From: Luis Gonz?lez <luisg123v gmail com>
> > > > > To: "Mgr. Janusz Chmiel" <ernesta tiscali cz>
> > > > > Cc: Glenn <glennervin gmail com>, orca-list gnome org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [orca-list] XP-Like Ubuntu security question
> > > > > Message-ID:
> > > > > <CABOLRqpHk=ztby9bT7h98-gfQoxg=AZM++C_OZRhZFh-+Vv7_A mail gmail com>
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm using various Linux versions, including Ubuntu 10.04. Although
> > > > > it's currently supported for servers (it receives security updates,
> > > > > so
> > > > > the security shouldn't be a problem), the main problem is you can't
> > > > > (or it's much harder) install new software, e.g. a roughly newer
> > > > > versions of Transmission, Libreoffice, pidgin, wine and others; in
> > > > > most cases, you'll need to compile the software  yourself.
> > > > >
> > > > > On the other hand, if you use unsupported versions like Ubuntu
> > > > > 8.*/10.10, you'll be exposed to new vulnerabilities, e.g.
> > > > > Heartbleed;
> > > > > so yes, security could  actually be something to consider.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > > Luis F. González V.
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Luis F. González V.