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Re: [orca-list] Looking for a good Windows-like Ubuntu

They say the closest interface to windows is KDE.  But, we all know the accessibility story with that one.  
It's always just around the corner from getting accessible but never quite makes it there.  I gave up on it 2 
years ago myself and I don't think it's changed all that much since then.

Alex M


-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of B. Henry
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 9:55 AM
To: Thomas Ward; orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Looking for a good Windows-like Ubuntu

I hit send too soon/forgot to say a couple things.
First a clarification. I do think one of the old windows knock-off interfaces is some what accessible, but 
can never run newer accessiblity packages, so is not even worth considering, especially for anyone who needs 
a graphical browser like firefox. 
Anyway, again, you'd be using a somewhat crippled Linux, so just forget aboput trying to be a fo windows. If 
you love windows that much, just use it and enjoy and suffer.
What I forgot to say is that I wrote that mate article, so if something is unclear, or needs to be included 
in your opinion, please use the contact link or the email address I use here to let me know so I can see 
about improving the article.
The other thing I forgot to mention is that here on a netbook with 1GB of RAM mate runs a bit faster and 
better than Windows XP. It uses a bit more memory which is a good thing as using ram is always faster than 
using hard-disk. On the extreme margins XP might run on hardware with less memory than Mate can, but XP sucks 
when you start getting much below 1GB if you want to browse the web and need speech to do it. 


On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 09:43:52AM -0500, B. Henry wrote:

No, I am pretty sure he's already tried gnome, and I'm as sure as I 
can be with out being iin his head that kind of interface is far from what he wants/means by windows like.
There's no windows clone interface that is accessible as far as I 
know, and honestly you will start being happier when you stop trying 
to put the equivalent of a garage door on a teepee, or 
visaversa...point is there are good  menu-driven interfaces that will 
give an experience that should give one's brain elements that are close enough to windows xp that they will 
quickly get used to what's different, atnd hopefully let them quickly see where the Linux 
interface/experience has improved on what was a good model.
I'm specifically talking about the Mate desktop. 
The latest Mate package-versions are needed to get the good accessible 
experience, so you will need something like whapt Thomas is talkiing about as your starting point.
Ubuntu-gnome also has the advantage of perhaps needing a few packages 
on the default image that you will likely want to keep and use with mate once installed.
For fairly detailed instructions on installation and accessible 
configuration of mate on Ubuntu go to the vinux wiki 
http://wiki.vinuxproject.org/mate_install
and note that Ubuntu trusty is refferenced at the bottom of the article in the other distros section.
All of the instructions except for what ppa to add are the same as in the main article. 
To make it even easier I put that ppa here below.
sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://repo.mate-desktop.org/archive/1.8/ubuntu trusty main"
Then
sudo apt-get update
and follow the instructions as to which packages to install and the commands to run to get things talking 
out of the box.
The one thing I don't think I added in the article yet is that orca 
should auto start for most folks using the new 1.8 packages. There were issues that made many people need 
to manually start orca each boot with earlier versions.
 

On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 08:28:18AM -0400, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi Glenn,

My suggestion is try Ubuntu Gnome. Its basically Ubuntu 14.04.1 with 
the Gnome desktop. It is very accessible, and I think what you'd be 
happiest with at this point. You can get it from 
http://www.ubuntugnome.com and burn the iso to cd/dvd as with the 
regular Ubuntu release.

HTH




On 8/16/14, Glenn <glennervin cableone net> wrote:

Hi,
I tried Mint, and it seems indeed inaccessible.
I tried Zorin, and although that is promising, it lacks stability 
with Orca

from my experience.
Does anyone know how I can get a good Windows-like Ubuntu?
Glenn

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The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out how to help at 
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