Re: [orca-list] Looking for a good Windows-like Ubuntu

["B. Henry" <burt1iband gmail com>]

I hit send too soon/forgot to say a couple things.
First a clarification. I do think one of the old windows knock-off interfaces is some what accessible, but 
can never run 
newer accessiblity packages, so is not even worth considering, especially for anyone who needs a graphical 
browser like 
firefox. 
Anyway, again, you'd be using a somewhat crippled Linux, so just forget aboput trying to be a fo windows. If 
you love 
windows that much, just use it and enjoy and suffer.
What I forgot to say is that I wrote that mate article, so if something is unclear, or needs to be included 
in your 
opinion, please use the contact link or the email address I use here to let me know so I can see about 
improving the 
article.
The other thing I forgot to mention is that here on a netbook with 1GB of RAM mate runs a bit faster and 
better than 
Windows XP. It uses a bit more memory which is a good thing as using ram is always faster than using 
hard-disk. On the 
extreme margins XP might run on hardware with less memory than Mate can, but XP sucks when you start getting 
much below 
1GB if you want to browse the web and need speech to do it. 


On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 09:43:52AM -0500, B. Henry wrote:
> No, I am pretty sure he's already tried gnome, and I'm as sure as I can be with out being iin his head that 
> kind of 
> interface is far from what he wants/means by windows like.
> There's no windows clone interface that is accessible as far as I know, and honestly you will start being 
> happier when you 
> stop trying to put the equivalent of a garage door on a teepee, or visaversa...point is there are good  
> menu-driven 
> interfaces that will give an experience that should give one's brain elements that are close enough to 
> windows xp that 
> they will quickly get used to what's different, atnd hopefully let them quickly see where the Linux 
> interface/experience 
> has improved on what was a good model. 
> I'm specifically talking about the Mate desktop. 
> The latest Mate package-versions are needed to get the good accessible experience, so you will need 
> something like whapt 
> Thomas is talkiing about as your starting point. 
> Ubuntu-gnome also has the advantage of perhaps needing a few packages on the default image that you will 
> likely want to 
> keep and use with mate once installed.
> For fairly detailed instructions on installation and accessible configuration of mate on Ubuntu go to the 
> vinux wiki
> http://wiki.vinuxproject.org/mate_install
> and note that Ubuntu trusty is refferenced at the bottom of the article in the other distros section.
> All of the instructions except for what ppa to add are the same as in the main article. 
> To make it even easier I put that ppa here below.
> sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://repo.mate-desktop.org/archive/1.8/ubuntu trusty main"
> Then 
> sudo apt-get update
> and follow the instructions as to which packages to install and the commands to run to get things talking 
> out of the box.
> The one thing I don't think I added in the article yet is that orca should auto start for most folks using 
> the new 1.8 
> packages. There were issues that made many people need to manually start orca each boot with earlier 
> versions.
>  
>
> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 08:28:18AM -0400, Thomas Ward wrote:
> > Hi Glenn,
> >
> > My suggestion is try Ubuntu Gnome. Its basically Ubuntu 14.04.1 with
> > the Gnome desktop. It is very accessible, and I think what you'd be
> > happiest with at this point. You can get it from
> > http://www.ubuntugnome.com
> > and burn the iso to cd/dvd as with the regular Ubuntu release.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/16/14, Glenn <glennervin cableone net> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > I tried Mint, and it seems indeed inaccessible.
> > > I tried Zorin, and although that is promising, it lacks stability with Orca
> > >
> > > from my experience.
> > > Does anyone know how I can get a good Windows-like Ubuntu?
> > > Glenn
> > >
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