Re: [orca-list] Why flat review was causing focus losses in GNOME 3.9.x

[Jonathan Nadeau <j nadeau charter net>]

Joanie,

Well put. Thanks for all of your hard work on Orca. Thanks also to the
rest of the gnome-accessibility team.



  On 09/12/2013 07:49 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> On 09/12/2013 11:16 PM, Alex Midence wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > A bit confused here.
> Apologies for the confusion. Let me try again.
>
> 1. Orca has a flat review feature whereby users who are blind can
>    access on-screen contents even if the accessibility implementation
>    is poor.
> 2. When Orca's flat review feature is used, Orca tries to indicate the
>    current review location to sighted users who are not familiar with
>    screen readers by underlining it on the screen with a red underline
>    marker so that those sighted users know where they are.
> 3. Due to recent changes in GNOME, the act of informing sighted users
>    where they happen to be when using Orca's flat review feature for
>    users who are blind causes the window being accessed to lose focus.
>
> So we have a choice:
>
> 1. Try to force a screen reader to adjust to the needs of sighted users
>    who are not accustomed to using a screen reader.
> 2. Remove a stupid, broken debugging feature for sighted, non-screen
>    reader users so that actual screen reader users can, ya know,
>    continue to read the screen.
>
> My vote is for choice two. And for the record, I happen to be sighted.
>
> Orca exists to provide access to users who are blind/visually impaired.
> Period. If sighted users cannot cope, then the problem is theirs; not
> Orca's. Screen reader 101 for sighted users lessons provided upon
> request. *sweet smile*
>
> Further questions?
> --joanie
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