Re: [orca-list] trying to use Orca full-time, have some questions
- From: Peter Vágner <pvdeejay gmail com>
- To: Krishnakant Mane <krmane gmail com>, Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com>, 'Julius Charles Serrano' <julius serrano gmail com>, orca-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: [orca-list] trying to use Orca full-time, have some questions
- Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 18:53:08 +0100
Hello,
Perhaps someone can remember my story but I'll try to repeat it here
with some ideas added.
As a matter of my preference to open source software I was trying to
switch to linux ever since I have got my own desktop computer what has
all started at about the begining of 2006.
First I was experiencing with debian, trying console apps, then trying
out emac and emacspeak and speechd-l. It is powerfull enviromment even
today but I was not flexible enough to learn it properly and I was
unable to get used to it full time.
Then my next attempt was as I was graduating at the university. At that
time I was using ubuntu 8.04. I was able to get the gnome desktop to
work reasonably well however I was quite shocked that the performance is
not as responsive than using NVDA on Windows. Handling large folder in
nautilus, large lists of emails in Thunderbird and even list of contacts
in pidgin was causing serious issues. While it was usable to a certain
extend I can't say I was comfortable with that.
Then my next serious round of testing was with ubuntu 10.04. Currently I
can't say whether I had not enough powerfull computer at that time or my
skills were too limited I have only used that system occassionally to
test things, sometimes browse the web and also for watching TV, ripping
and reencoding TV shows etc. This worked pretty well and it helped me to
earn some more experience with linux in general.
And my final switch to linux started at the begining of july 2012 by
installing ubuntu 12.04 to my brand new laptop. Originally I was dual
booting with Windows but as I was more and more happy with the newly
installed system I have found my-self only occassionally booting to
windows. As the situation got reversed I became more and more curious
and I have installed arch linux and started using it on december 6th 2012.
Now I am daily running arch with testing repositories disabled. I have
never experienced such an issue with the rolling release cycle that my
machine became not bootable and I experienced only minor issues which
were easy to solve after reading arch linux wiki, forums or googling a bit.
For some 6 months I haven't booted to windows and since I am running
arch linux I am not using ubuntu either.
So If you find your self as a power user of any kind with at least
reasonable knowledge you need to install a system of your choice and
adapt it to your needs. You may like to test ubuntu, vinux, sonar
whatewer but if this is not enough for you keep exploring and if you
like you may slowly then move to arch, manjaro even gentoo.
I know installing latest a11y stack into a ubuntu 12.04 system won't
work with reasonable efforts but with current version of ubuntu you can
install latest development stuff easily the same way you can do with
arch, with fedora and with others.
There are just some additional distro specific things you need to learn
in order to be able to do that with a distro of your choice.
If you are able to dedicate quite a lot of time to research what distro
is better and also if you have enough time to discuss all these matters
on a mailing list you will for sure have that little time to upgrade
your rolling release based OS even if there might be some minor
unexpected issues. You don't have to do this each day. It's enough to do
this once, twice or even four times a month. It's all up to you and this
is one of the strongest points I currently like about my setup. I can do
what I want with it and I have got excelent documentation and community
support.
Greetings
Peter
On 21.11.2013 17:10, Krishnakant Mane wrote:
HI Alex,
Can you give me some more inputs on this.
I wish to try gnome shell 3.10 and my first question is which distro.
Secondly, can it be used for daily full time purpose?
I am still stuck with Unity 2d and it is kind of good enough.
If you say gnome shell 3.10 is even better, then I am tempted to try
it out.
Happy hacking.
Krishnakant.
On 11/21/2013 09:29 PM, Alex Midence wrote:
With Gnome 3.10, I believe Gnome Shell has surpassed Unity 2d for
accessibility. I switched from Unity 2d to Gnome 3.4 and found it
comparable. I then saw 3.8 and saw great improvement. 3.10 with its
improvements is even better and, I think, outstrips Unity 2d in areas
like
pdf accessibility and hotkeys to navigate the different areas of the
desktop
system. With all the Orca improvements being backported to 3.10 from
the
3.11 refactoring Joannie is doing, I can't imagine using 12.04 right now
with its outdated a11y stack.
Just my 2 cents,
Alex M
-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of
Krishnakant Mane
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:33 AM
To: Julius Charles Serrano; orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] trying to use Orca full-time, have some
questions
So afterall Vinux is based on the same version.
I am personally using Ubuntu 12.04 and perhaps will do so till the
spring of
2014.
I hope then by now at least gnome shell will have more accessibility
and we
will get to do a lot with it.
Happy hacking.
Krishnakant.
On 11/21/2013 02:50 PM, Julius Charles Serrano wrote:
Thank you to everyone who has answered my questions on-list and
off-list.
I truly appreciate it.
I've also done some reading and asking around, and I'm finding that
Ubuntu 12.04 (not sure of the exact version number, will confirm it)
could be my best bet.
Julius
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orca-list gnome org
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Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at
http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out
how to
help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
_______________________________________________
orca-list mailing list
orca-list gnome org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at
http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
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