Re: [orca-list] Your opinion on radio button and check box presentation?

[Peter Vágner <pvdeejay gmail com>]

Hello,
Ooops, I am sorry. We are most likelly all speculating too much.
What I have now realized after reading Joanie's message again is that 
she is not asking about the state names but the order of words.
I think the control role e.g. checkbox or radio button should be spoken 
first and the state e.g. checked, unchecked, selected, not selected 
should be spoken after the role.
So I wish orca to present
checkbox checked
radio button selected
or whatewer the states happen to be named after this discussion. I think 
the names for the states should not change at all after realizing this.

Excuse me for the confusion with my previous message.

Greetings

Peter


On 14.11.2013 08:53, Krishnakant Mane wrote:
> +1 for selected.
> This sounds less technical and more for the common man.
> happy hacking.
> Krishnakant.
> On 11/14/2013 01:18 PM, Robert Cole wrote:
> > Admittedly, it can be an annoyance. I thnk that there is some 
> > unwritten "Coder's Code" as to why the states "selected" and 
> > "checked" are used for these two different kinds of buttons, but it 
> > does feel inconsistent to me. Someone out there may have a different 
> > case scenario, but I think that "selected" and  "not selected" would 
> > be fine across check boxes and radio buttons.
> >
> > On 11/13/2013 10:07 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > Hey all.
> > >
> > > Given a checked/selected widget labeled foo, Orca says:
> > >
> > > * Foo selected radio button
> > > * Foo check box checked
> > >
> > > I know it's minor, but inconsistency bugs me. And these feel like they
> > > are inconsistent for no good reason. So... Is there a valid reason why
> > > they are different, other than "it's always been that way"? Or does 
> > > this
> > > nit annoy you as well?
> > >
> > > --joanie (who may have acquired a widget neurosis from the refactor)
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