Re: [orca-list] [solved] Re: Arch+orca stopped talking to me

[Peter Vágner <pvdeejay gmail com>]

Hello,
Thanks for the constructive comments.
I have filed these two issues hoping for a fix like you have suggested.



https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/34307
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/34308

Greetings

Peter

On 13.03.2013 11:16, Dmitri Paduchikh wrote:
> Actually, I do not think this is a price you pay for living on the
> bleeding edge but a price of not having proper support of Orca and
> Speech Dispatcher in Arch Linux.  It seems that nobody checks the
> consistency of these packages in testing, hence breakage sneaked into
> stable unnoticed.
>
> It even did not need manual checking.  I believe that breakage could be
> noticed if the dependency relationship between these two packages was
> specified more clearly.  I am not very familiar with packaging in Arch
> Linux, so below reasoning may be imprecise, but I believe it's solvable,
> may be in some other way.
>
> Suppose that package of speech-dispatcher makes the following provision
> in its package specification:
>
> Provides       : python2-speechd
>
> and dependencies of orca contain:
>
> Depends On     : python2-speechd
>
> When preparing the package update of Speech Dispatcher the maintainer
> would change the name of these virtual package to python-speechd in
> accordance with naming of Python packages in Arch Linux. Then the
> dependency of orca becomes broken and this can be caught automatically.
> As I understand such automatic tests are performed regularly in Arch
> Linux.
>
> And of course you could report about this problem to the Arch devel
> list.  Sorry if you have done that.
>
> Kyle wrote:
>
> Ky> The problem was indeed caused by the latest speech-dispatcher shipping only
> Ky> with python 3.x bindings. It also affects the RSGames client, which no
> Ky> longer speaks, but the main problem was the fact that the GNOME 3.6 version
> Ky> of Orca stopped speaking. I received a PKGBUILD file that allowed me to
> Ky> upgrade to the latest git master, and doesn't depend on a package that for
> Ky> whatever reason is no longer in AUR. I also installed automake-1.12 from AUR
> Ky> to satisfy the build dependency on the previous version of automake. All is
> Ky> running fine now, except the RSGames client, which I can live without until
> Ky> everything is synchronized in the official repos or until RSGames ships a
> Ky> Python 3.x version. This is the price I pay for living on the bleeding edge
> Ky> <smiles>. I also received PKGBUILDs for the latest at-spi2 and atk packages,
> Ky> and will be upgrading those today as well. I look forward to the great
> Ky> things in the latest versions of the accessibility stack. I do, however,
> Ky> agree with others who have suggested downgrading speech-dispatcher for now,
> Ky> as that is certainly the easiest way to keep a speaking system, especially
> Ky> if you play RSGames, if you have the older speech-dispatcher package
> Ky> available. Apparently, I already cleaned mine to save disk space on the /
> Ky> partition, so I just upgraded Orca. Thanks for all the help. Oh, and yes, I
> Ky> do plan on purchasing a UPS some time in the near future <grin>.
> Ky> ~Kyle
> Ky> http://kyle.tk/