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Re: [orca-list] Problem running orca

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Yes, orca should work without a DE.
Try those commands.

Bill
On 03/02/2013 11:25 PM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:

Hi,

To help me understanding how things woro together: do you mean
that, if the window manager and the terminal are not supported, we
cannot read also apps which are launched from them? To read firefox
or OOo, I absolutely have to run orca in a supported environment
(gnome, lxde)?

That's right one of my 1st experience was to see if I could use
orca to read firefox and OOo without installing gnome3 or a
desktop, but only with a window manager. Is it impossible? Can't
orca be distinguished at all of the desktop infrastructure? I
thought I could do this as on a Debian, I could run only some
components of gnome and orca (terminal and mutter) then orca read
firefox.

Merci beaucoup pour votre aide,

Regards,

JPM

On Saturday 02 Mar 2013 à 22:16:35 (-0600), Alex Midence wrote:

All the other suggestions and questions notwithstanding, I wonder
if anyone's tackled the most fundamental problem:

Orca does not read Xterm.  It never has in my experience neither 
with braille nor with speech.  Gnome-termilnal yes, xterm?  Ce
n'est pas posible, mon ami.

Also, OpenBox is something I thought was not accessible.  If you 
require minimal resources, perhaps you should try getting LXDE
to work for you.  There are some messages in the archives of
this mailing list which give the steps.  I do not use LXDE but
Jonathan Nadeau and a few others have posted about this in the
past.

Bonne Chance, Alex M


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On 3/2/2013 9:50 PM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:

On Saturday 02 Mar 2013 à 22:40:10 (-0500), Bill Dengler
wrote:

Install the "speech-dispatcher" package then, run spd-conf

Hmmm. I've installed one. Even after spd-conf, I've nothing
else. But right, at this time, I've not installed any speech
synthetiser (espeak). I hope I'll be able to use braille
only. I needn't speech synthetiser usually.


Is there a reason you don't want python3?

I try optimizing at maximum my system and as I use python2
for most applications, I'm not so happy if both python2 and 3
are installed. Both would be large on the system. And most
apps don't support python3 yet. Well if I cannot do better,
I'll install it, but first, I'd ;ike to know if I can use
Python2. I also don't know if I don't risk conflicts between
modules and releases.

Sincerely,



Bill On 03/02/2013 10:39 PM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:

On Saturday 02 Mar 2013 à 22:26:55 (-0500), Bill Dengler
wrote: OK... do you hear "welcome to orca"?


No I don't. I only see, via xbrlapi, "Screen reader
orca" (so a window whose title is "screen reader
orca"). But indeed, I don't have "Welcome to orca". 
Thanks for your help.


Bill On 03/02/2013 10:25 PM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
wrote:

Hi,

I'm in progress in my experiences, but still not
with an orca. I explain. I use openbox, and I run
orca from an xterm terminal. I issue: orca
--enable=braille I have nothing. orca runs, but
nothing seems to appear, including the preferences 
window. I precise at-spi2-registryd is running.

So I run, while xterm is running and on a terminal
(tty1): DISPLAY=:0 orca --enable=braille

On the console, I get: File 
"/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gi/types.py",
line 47, in function return info.invoke(*args,
**kwargs) gi._glib.GError: Could not locate
wnck_screen_get_default: (null)

orca crashes (I can kill it only with a kill -s 9
command).

I precise what I want: running orca from xterm (or
at X boot time via openbox autostart or what else
I'll find), and having displayed the preferences
window. Then, with alt-tab, I could access to OOo
and firefox. Xterm would say "inaccessible" but no
problem, I don't mind.

Is this behavior expected? Does a stack miss in my
system? I still use orca 3.6.2, as I'd like to
avoid Python3 required with latest orca releases. I
have installed pygobject and libwnck. But some
stack must miss in my architecture of 
accessibility.

Thanks for your help.

Regards,

JPM

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is at
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Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out
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