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Re: [orca-list] Problem running orca

Hi,

To help me understanding how things woro together: do you mean that, if the
window manager and the terminal are not supported, we cannot read also apps
which are launched from them? To read firefox or OOo, I absolutely have to run
orca in a supported environment (gnome, lxde)?

That's right one of my 1st experience was to see if I could use orca to read
firefox and OOo without installing gnome3 or a desktop, but only with a
window manager. Is it impossible? Can't orca be distinguished at all of the
desktop infrastructure? I thought I could do this as on a Debian, I could
run only some components of gnome and orca (terminal and mutter) then orca
read firefox.

Merci beaucoup pour votre aide,

Regards,

JPM

On Saturday 02 Mar 2013 à 22:16:35 (-0600), Alex Midence wrote:

All the other suggestions and questions notwithstanding, I wonder if
anyone's tackled the most fundamental problem:

Orca does not read Xterm.  It never has in my experience neither
with braille nor with speech.  Gnome-termilnal yes, xterm?  Ce n'est
pas posible, mon ami.

Also, OpenBox is something I thought was not accessible.  If you
require minimal resources, perhaps you should try getting LXDE to
work for you.  There are some messages in the archives of this
mailing list which give the steps.  I do not use LXDE but Jonathan
Nadeau and a few others have posted about this in the past.

Bonne Chance,
Alex M


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On 3/2/2013 9:50 PM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:

On Saturday 02 Mar 2013 à 22:40:10 (-0500), Bill Dengler wrote:

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Install the "speech-dispatcher" package
then, run spd-conf

Hmmm. I've installed one. Even after spd-conf, I've nothing else. But right, at
this time, I've not installed any speech synthetiser (espeak). I hope I'll be
able to use braille only. I needn't speech synthetiser usually.


Is there a reason you don't want python3?

I try optimizing at maximum my system and as I use python2 for most applications,
I'm not so happy if both python2 and 3 are installed. Both would be large on
the system. And most apps don't support python3 yet. Well if I cannot do
better, I'll install it, but first, I'd ;ike to know if I can use Python2.
I also don't know if I don't risk conflicts between modules and releases.

Sincerely,



Bill
On 03/02/2013 10:39 PM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:

On Saturday 02 Mar 2013 à 22:26:55 (-0500), Bill Dengler wrote:
OK... do you hear "welcome to orca"?


No I don't. I only see, via xbrlapi, "Screen reader orca" (so a
window whose title is "screen reader orca"). But indeed, I don't
have "Welcome to orca".
Thanks for your help.


Bill On 03/02/2013 10:25 PM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:

Hi,

I'm in progress in my experiences, but still not with an
orca. I explain. I use openbox, and I run orca from an xterm
terminal. I issue: orca --enable=braille I have nothing. orca
runs, but nothing seems to appear, including the preferences
window. I precise at-spi2-registryd is running.

So I run, while xterm is running and on a terminal (tty1):
DISPLAY=:0 orca --enable=braille

On the console, I get: File
"/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gi/types.py", line
47, in function return info.invoke(*args, **kwargs)
gi._glib.GError: Could not locate wnck_screen_get_default:
(null)

orca crashes (I can kill it only with a kill -s 9 command).

I precise what I want: running orca from xterm (or at X boot
time via openbox autostart or what else I'll find), and
having displayed the preferences window. Then, with alt-tab,
I could access to OOo and firefox. Xterm would say
"inaccessible" but no problem, I don't mind.

Is this behavior expected? Does a stack miss in my system? I
still use orca 3.6.2, as I'd like to avoid Python3 required
with latest orca releases. I have installed pygobject and
libwnck. But some stack must miss in my architecture of
accessibility.

Thanks for your help.

Regards,

JPM

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