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Re: [orca-list] Revamped explanation of problems relating to lack of speech accessability

Hi,
I know this thread is getting off topic now, but I don't believe Pulse
is as bad as people make it out to be.
Change happens and over the last 5 years Pulse has become domimant, this
as a community we must deal with and help developers to identify where
if it fails.
Ubuntu does make Pulse just work but I am pretty sure lot of other
distributions do also.
Are there representatives from other Distros whom subscribe to this list
and that may be able to chime in?

Kind regards
Rob Whyte
On 06/08/13 12:48, Alex Midence wrote:

In distributions other than Vinux, what you describe is extremely difficult to achieve.  If it were not for 
all of the customizations and scripts that Luke created so that this was possible, I don't think you would 
be saying that.  You would have to run pulse in systemwide mode losing much of it's functionality. Also, 
things just get much more complicated when you have Pulse to deal with. When you have pure alsa, you would 
not believe how everything just "works "

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 4, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chaltain gmail com> wrote:


I'm using PulseAudio and Speakup in my consoles and Orca on my GUI, so I'm not sure where this restriction 
you're referring to comes from.

On 08/04/2013 11:54 AM, Alex Midence wrote:

You don't have to have gui free systems to use cli apps in console
mode.  What does help is if it is free of Pulse Audio.  This will let
you use Speakup for the console and Orca for the GUI.

Alex M

On 8/4/2013 5:09 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:

I think galpine exists which is designed to run in graphical mode not in
terminal or console.  I have no idea how compatible orca will be with it
since most all email discussions are hostage to thunderbird and
evolution.  Aside from that, alpine may have a setting for cursor in its
settings that may help.  I don't know that any of orca's karet modes
will even work in terminal mode.  If none of that can or will work, the
g.u.i. has its limitations and you may well have just met one of them.
There's always command line if you can get a system specifically
installed for it and keep that system free of g.u.i. contamination.
It's all in how much of a learning curve you're prepared to take on and
how soon.

On Sun, 4 Aug 2013, RiverWind wrote:


Here is an expurgated version of my original message.

Hey There,

For the first time ever, I find that Orca refuses to read most of
the screens in alpine or several other commandline utilities.
They have heretofore performed this function for me without any
trouble what-so-ever. I absolutely can not get orca to allow me
total freedom in pine or alpine, and I can not figure out how to
remedy this matter.

I thought that perhaps firing up a console by means of
"orca+ctrl+space" would allow me to make some sort of palliative
adjustments; nothing doing. This is because I can not figure out
how to load speech-dispatcher and get it talking. When ever I
load a console, orca goes on vacation, AWOL as you might say. I
am then bereft of speech output. I can log into the console
readily enough, but I'm dead in the water afterwards.

I would be most sincerely thankful for any help I might be able
to obtain here. I would be most especially grateful to once more
be capable of operating in terminal mode as apposed to in a
console, if possible. I am most dreadfully sorry to address the
same issue twice in such a short time, but I really haven't any
choice in the matter. Please bear with me, kind reader, and
perhaps I'll not be faced with this most odious of necessities in
the near future at least.

cheerio,
Riv

My Website @ http://riverwind.shellworld.net
My Blog http://windraven13.livejournal.com/
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Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at
http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
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The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
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_______________________________________________
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orca-list gnome org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
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