Re: [orca-list] More on desktop shells, 2D vs 3D, and the future.

[Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com>]

Hi, Frederik,

Do you have a "What needs to be done" page?  Something someone who
wants to have a go as you put it can use to make a game plan?

alex M

On 5/11/12, Frederik Gladhorn <gladhorn kde org> wrote:
> Fredag 11. mai 2012 08.25.33 skrev Alex Midence:
> > Hi, Frederik,
> >
> > Out of curiosity, has any progress been made in the area of text entry
> > fields and text editing widgets with qt?  Last I checked a little less
> > than a month ago, this functionality was not working well.  Any idea
> > how things are going now?
>
> This is one of the things that is hard to fix in Qt 4 and should be much
> improved in Qt 5 since I was aware of some flaws in our old API and could
> improve the event sending.
>
> I assume it would be possible to improve Qt 4 more, but right now I have
> some
> other pressing tasks to work on, so this will have to wait. If someone wants
>
> to have a go, I'm happy to help of course.
>
> Cheers
> Frederik
>
>
> > Thanks.
> > Alex M
> >
> > On 5/11/12, Frederik Gladhorn <gladhorn kde org> wrote:
> > > Hi Luke,
> > > I'll just quickly comment on the KDE part ;)
> > >
> > > Onsdag 9. mai 2012 15.56.26 skrev Luke Yelavich:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > KDE:
> > > > KDE uses the QT widget toolkit. I believe that KDE does use 3D
> > > > rendering
> > > > by
> > > > default, although this may be incorrect. It also may be possible to
> > > > disable
> > > > 3D graphics rendering, although again I am not 100% sure.
> > > >
> > > > Whilst QT accessibility is improving, more work is needed to improve
> > > > KDE's
> > > > accessibility, as KDE has many custom elements that need to be enabled
> > > > for
> > > > accessibility. We will have accessible KDe applications before we have
> > > > the
> > > > whole desktop accessible, which is still good enough, given our other
> > > > desktop shell choices.
> > >
> > > KDE has logic to try to use 3D and automatically fall back to not using
> > > it.
> > >
> > > The code base is the same, so there is no noticable difference between
> > > the
> > > two. I can toggle the effects by a keyboard shortcut at runtime.
> > >
> > > As for custom widgets, my testing shows that surprisingly many just
> > > work.
> > > Some
> > > features will be "invisible" to the screen reader, such as KDE adding a
> > > small
> > > clear button in line edits. But the edit will still works as normal,
> > > just
> > > the
> > > clear button not be discovered.
> > >
> > > And yes, there is still a long way to go, let's start today ;)
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Frederik
> > >
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