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Re: [orca-list] Orca xterm braille Eclipse

Good to know about putty and NVDA. I use both JAWS and NVDA on my
Windows systems. With Teraterm and JAWS, I didn't have any trouble
reviewing the screen or hearing command prompts spoken. It may be a good
alternative if someone doesn't want to learn another screen reader.

On 20/12/12 10:23, Alex Midence wrote:

Never heard of teraterm.  I use PuTTY to access the Debian server I
administer here at work from my windows machine.  Jaws does not read command
prompts and has a cumbersome way of handling the reading of prior lines of
text.  NVDA works as well as Orca does with Gnome-terminal and even uses
many of the same key strokes.  So, when I have to run updates or restart
apache or something like that, I switch to NVDA for a second, hop onto the
server with putty and do my thing.  Works great.

Alex M


-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On
Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 9:12 AM
To: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Orca xterm braille Eclipse

I've used JAWS with Teraterm from Windows to access Unix boxes with good
success.

On 20/12/12 08:45, Alex Midence wrote:

Hi there!

 

I'll keep this brief.  Firstly, I am a long time Jaws and Focus 80 
user so I know just exactly where your friend is coming from.  Also, 
you are on the right track but need some tweaks.

 

1.        Get rid of RHEL if you can.  The accessibility stack on there
is old and doesn't have all the improvements you can find in the newer 
stuff.  Orca is developed on a Fedora installation so, you can use 
that.  Debian Wheezy and Ubuntu 12.04 are also great.

2.       Ditch xterm.  It's not accessible.  Use Gnome-terminal instead.

3.       Dependency hell got you.  Reason he doesn't have braile output
in x is probably due to dependency problems.  Probably missing
brltty-x11 packages and the liblouis libraries or something like that. 
Another thing to check is to make sure Orca has the braille output 
enabled.  Run the orca -t configuration script and make sure you 
enable braille.

4.       If you just have to have to have to use RHEL, look into
installing Orca 3.2-xdesktop from sources since you'll get some 
improvement over the one in Gnome 2.28 and it uses the old 
accessibility stack with Corba.  You can get your hands on it from

live.gnome.org.


I'm sure there's much more I could say but this should get you started. 
Oh and as Jose mentioned, Eclipse IDE is fully accessible with Orca. 
One last thing, if you ever want him using SSH to log onto a Linux box 
from a Windows machine with PuTTY or something like that, install the 
open source screen reader NVDA from http://www.nvda-project.org.  Jaws 
doesn't handle terminal windows very well but NVDA works nicely on them.

 

HTH,

Alex M

 

5.        

*From:*orca-list-bounces gnome org 
[mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org]
*On Behalf Of *Knaapen, Wim
*Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2012 6:53 AM
*To:* orca-list gnome org
*Subject:* [orca-list] Orca xterm braille Eclipse

 

Hello All,

 

I have a question regarding the use of a Braille device in the 
combination with an xterm sessions of eclipe. The situation is as
follows: A colleague of mine is blind and depends on a 
freedomscientific focus 80 Braille device. He works normally with 
windows and that works reasonable. But for a new application he needs 
to use eclipse on a Linux box. First we tried to simply use exceed on 
his PC. Visually that works, he gets the screen, but Jaws (his screen 
reader package) only reports a blank screen, no information on what is on

the screen.


We were told that it should work better if you use a Linux (gnome) 
desktop. So we installed Linux (RHEL 6) and activated Orca to see if 
that would work. But now I'm running into several problems. First of 
all, the Braille device doesn't work in graphical mode (the Orca 
Braille monitor shows the correct data, but the device doesn't). If I 
start the Linux box in non-graphical mode the Braille device works and 
shows the correct information. But as I explained we need the graphical

interface.


 

Next problem I have is when I display an xterm session on the Linux 
box Orca doesn't show any information from inside the xterminal (the 
Braille monitor stays blank).

 

The big question is, does the combination xterm - Braille device work 
at all? Has anybody such a combination running? And the next question 
would be, how did they get it to work.

 

If you need more information, just ask .

 

PS I use brltty as Braille device driver.


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