Re: [orca-list] Orca xterm braille Eclipse
- From: Christopher Chaltain <chaltain gmail com>
- To: orca-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: [orca-list] Orca xterm braille Eclipse
- Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 09:12:27 -0600
I've used JAWS with Teraterm from Windows to access Unix boxes with good
success.
On 20/12/12 08:45, Alex Midence wrote:
Hi there!
I’ll keep this brief. Firstly, I am a long time Jaws and Focus 80 user
so I know just exactly where your friend is coming from. Also, you are
on the right track but need some tweaks.
1. Get rid of RHEL if you can. The accessibility stack on there
is old and doesn’t have all the improvements you can find in the newer
stuff. Orca is developed on a Fedora installation so, you can use
that. Debian Wheezy and Ubuntu 12.04 are also great.
2. Ditch xterm. It’s not accessible. Use Gnome-terminal instead.
3. Dependency hell got you. Reason he doesn’t have braile output
in x is probably due to dependency problems. Probably missing
brltty-x11 packages and the liblouis libraries or something like that.
Another thing to check is to make sure Orca has the braille output
enabled. Run the orca –t configuration script and make sure you enable
braille.
4. If you just have to have to have to use RHEL, look into
installing Orca 3.2-xdesktop from sources since you’ll get some
improvement over the one in Gnome 2.28 and it uses the old accessibility
stack with Corba. You can get your hands on it from live.gnome.org.
I’m sure there’s much more I could say but this should get you started.
Oh and as Jose mentioned, Eclipse IDE is fully accessible with Orca.
One last thing, if you ever want him using SSH to log onto a Linux box
from a Windows machine with PuTTY or something like that, install the
open source screen reader NVDA from http://www.nvda-project.org. Jaws
doesn’t handle terminal windows very well but NVDA works nicely on them.
HTH,
Alex M
5.
*From:*orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org]
*On Behalf Of *Knaapen, Wim
*Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2012 6:53 AM
*To:* orca-list gnome org
*Subject:* [orca-list] Orca xterm braille Eclipse
Hello All,
I have a question regarding the use of a Braille device in the
combination with an xterm sessions of eclipe. The situation is as
follows: A colleague of mine is blind and depends on a freedomscientific
focus 80 Braille device. He works normally with windows and that works
reasonable. But for a new application he needs to use eclipse on a Linux
box. First we tried to simply use exceed on his PC. Visually that works,
he gets the screen, but Jaws (his screen reader package) only reports a
blank screen, no information on what is on the screen.
We were told that it should work better if you use a Linux (gnome)
desktop. So we installed Linux (RHEL 6) and activated Orca to see if
that would work. But now I’m running into several problems. First of
all, the Braille device doesn’t work in graphical mode (the Orca Braille
monitor shows the correct data, but the device doesn’t). If I start the
Linux box in non-graphical mode the Braille device works and shows the
correct information. But as I explained we need the graphical interface.
Next problem I have is when I display an xterm session on the Linux box
Orca doesn’t show any information from inside the xterminal (the Braille
monitor stays blank).
The big question is, does the combination xterm – Braille device work at
all? Has anybody such a combination running? And the next question would
be, how did they get it to work.
If you need more information, just ask …
PS I use brltty as Braille device driver.
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