Re: [orca-list] Orca xterm braille Eclipse

[Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com>]

Never heard of teraterm.  I use PuTTY to access the Debian server I
administer here at work from my windows machine.  Jaws does not read command
prompts and has a cumbersome way of handling the reading of prior lines of
text.  NVDA works as well as Orca does with Gnome-terminal and even uses
many of the same key strokes.  So, when I have to run updates or restart
apache or something like that, I switch to NVDA for a second, hop onto the
server with putty and do my thing.  Works great.

Alex M


-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On
Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 9:12 AM
To: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Orca xterm braille Eclipse

I've used JAWS with Teraterm from Windows to access Unix boxes with good
success.

On 20/12/12 08:45, Alex Midence wrote:
> Hi there!
>
>  
>
> I'll keep this brief.  Firstly, I am a long time Jaws and Focus 80 
> user so I know just exactly where your friend is coming from.  Also, 
> you are on the right track but need some tweaks.
>
>  
>
> 1.        Get rid of RHEL if you can.  The accessibility stack on there
> is old and doesn't have all the improvements you can find in the newer 
> stuff.  Orca is developed on a Fedora installation so, you can use 
> that.  Debian Wheezy and Ubuntu 12.04 are also great.
>
> 2.       Ditch xterm.  It's not accessible.  Use Gnome-terminal instead.
>
> 3.       Dependency hell got you.  Reason he doesn't have braile output
> in x is probably due to dependency problems.  Probably missing
> brltty-x11 packages and the liblouis libraries or something like that. 
> Another thing to check is to make sure Orca has the braille output 
> enabled.  Run the orca -t configuration script and make sure you 
> enable braille.
>
> 4.       If you just have to have to have to use RHEL, look into
> installing Orca 3.2-xdesktop from sources since you'll get some 
> improvement over the one in Gnome 2.28 and it uses the old 
> accessibility stack with Corba.  You can get your hands on it from
live.gnome.org.
> I'm sure there's much more I could say but this should get you started. 
> Oh and as Jose mentioned, Eclipse IDE is fully accessible with Orca. 
> One last thing, if you ever want him using SSH to log onto a Linux box 
> from a Windows machine with PuTTY or something like that, install the 
> open source screen reader NVDA from http://www.nvda-project.org.  Jaws 
> doesn't handle terminal windows very well but NVDA works nicely on them.
>
>  
>
> HTH,
>
> Alex M
>
>  
>
> 5.        
>
> *From:*orca-list-bounces gnome org 
> [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org]
> *On Behalf Of *Knaapen, Wim
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2012 6:53 AM
> *To:* orca-list gnome org
> *Subject:* [orca-list] Orca xterm braille Eclipse
>
>  
>
> Hello All,
>
>  
>
> I have a question regarding the use of a Braille device in the 
> combination with an xterm sessions of eclipe. The situation is as
> follows: A colleague of mine is blind and depends on a 
> freedomscientific focus 80 Braille device. He works normally with 
> windows and that works reasonable. But for a new application he needs 
> to use eclipse on a Linux box. First we tried to simply use exceed on 
> his PC. Visually that works, he gets the screen, but Jaws (his screen 
> reader package) only reports a blank screen, no information on what is on
the screen.
> We were told that it should work better if you use a Linux (gnome) 
> desktop. So we installed Linux (RHEL 6) and activated Orca to see if 
> that would work. But now I'm running into several problems. First of 
> all, the Braille device doesn't work in graphical mode (the Orca 
> Braille monitor shows the correct data, but the device doesn't). If I 
> start the Linux box in non-graphical mode the Braille device works and 
> shows the correct information. But as I explained we need the graphical
interface.
>  
>
> Next problem I have is when I display an xterm session on the Linux 
> box Orca doesn't show any information from inside the xterminal (the 
> Braille monitor stays blank).
>
>  
>
> The big question is, does the combination xterm - Braille device work 
> at all? Has anybody such a combination running? And the next question 
> would be, how did they get it to work.
>
>  
>
> If you need more information, just ask .
>
>  
>
> PS I use brltty as Braille device driver.
>
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Christopher (CJ)
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