Re: [orca-list] Pdf accessibility in Linux was Re: Trying Quantal Quetsal Alpha 3



There is some work on the Mozilla side that seems interesting with this topic also.  Has anyone tried the pdf viewer plugin with firefox 14?  Apparently this add-on is supposed to be built-in to firefox 15.  The only problem I had with it, was that some of the words seemed to be chopped up.  I’m just curious to see who else has tried it on this list, and what success you’ve had using Orca either stable or master.  Thanks much for any input in advance.

 

Thanks,

 

 

Guy

               

 

From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of Speedy
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 4:25 PM
To: Juan Jose Marin Martinez
Cc: Donald Marang verizon net; orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Pdf accessibility in Linux was Re: Trying Quantal Quetsal Alpha 3

 

Thanks for this last piece of info.  I have been searching for an accessible PDF reader that can run in Ubuntu for years!  I hope the work on evince makes progress soon! 


Don Marang
Vinux Package Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org


On 8/7/2012 2:42 PM, Juan Jose Marin Martinez wrote:

Speedy,

Okular and Evince use the same PDF rendering engine, Poppler. In fact, Okular and Evince maintainers are the main contributors of Poppler.

GNU PDF was removed from the FSF High Priority Projects because the maturity of Poppler. Check the link below.

As Dani Garcia told us, some work is in on the road to provide accessible information to Evince. He patched Poppler to provide the text attributes to glib, used by Evince, and he's now working in Evince to provide the PDF information to orca.

Cheers,

 -- Juanjo Marin

Link:

http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/gnu-pdf-project-leaves-high-priority-projects-list-mission-complete



On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 13:42:46 -0400, Speedy wrote:


GNU has been working on PDF libraries which seem to implement all of the
Tag functionality of the standard. GNU had this listed as one of their
top priorities last year! It was designed with accessibility in mind. The
plan was to build a totally accessible PDF viewer, originally called
juggler, now seems to go by the name gnupdf (gnupdf.org). I believe most
of the work on the libraries are complete. Unfortunately, no effort has
gone into the front end application! GNU has also apparently lowered the
priority or stopped the idea entirely of developing their own open PDF
reader!
Perhaps they think the need has been filled by other projects? There is
an application, called Okular, which is rated well and available on
Linux, Windows and Mac. Has anybody used this application and is it
accessible?

Here is a list of free readers posted by GNU:
PDFreaders.org - Get a Free Software PDF reader!
http://www.pdfreaders.org/ [8]

DON MARANG
Vinux Package Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org [9]

On 8/2/2012 9:45 PM, Jason White wrote:


Thomas Ward wrote:


It sounds to me like what we need here is for someone to write a
talking pdf viewer/reader. I really don't think creating such an
application would be all that difficult. After all, as has been
discussed there is an open pdf document standard used by a number of
open source applications. All we really need to do is create an
accessible graphical document reader using something like the GTK+ 3
toolkit, and then maybe wrap speech-dispatcher for speech output.


The challenge would be to implement tagged PDF, which is the part of
the
specification of most relevance to accessibility. As far as I know,
there are
no free software implementations of this, except for LibreOffice, which
can
write it but can't read it. I think ConTeXt can also write it.

The solution would be to take the best existing PDF library and add
support
for tagged PDF.

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