Re: [orca-list] Fwd: Re: What the actual status with GNOME Shell 3.2 accessibility support?

[Christopher Chaltain <chaltain gmail com>]

I agree we need to get more accessibility on the tablets and the
netbooks, but I don't think anyone needs to worry about laptops and
desktops going away. The best article I read on the subject made the
distinction between content consumers and content providers. Content
consumers, who will be surfing the web, reading email, checking social
networking sites, streaming media, jotting down some notes, dashing off
the occasional email or text message and so on will be big tablet and
netbook users. Content providers though, who spend 8 plus hours a day,
designing web sites, writing thousands of lines of code, publishing
documents, editing video and so on won't be getting rid of their laptops
and desktops and doing this on a tablet or netbook. My only point is
that the laptop and desktop won't be going away entirely any time soon.

On 13/10/11 17:34, Deedra Waters wrote:
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [orca-list] What the actual status with GNOME Shell 3.2
> accessibility support?
> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:32:46 -0500
> From: Deedra Waters <deedra the-brannons com>
> To: David Csercsics <aarg shaw ca>
>
> I wouldn't say most people do that, netbooks can still run a desktop
> environment pretty well, bumping a netbook  to 2gb of ram could run you
> about $32 and that could run gnome easily.
>
> But yeah a  lot of people are switching to tablets and netbooks, howev i
> wouldn't go as far to say that they're being "forced" to
>
>
>
> Back to the topic at hand though i cwould be interested to know what
> smaller gui's look like in terms of accessibility.
>
> I'll say this here though, if android ever got ported to x86_64 or
> something similar i'd just assume use that on my machines as i would
> linux for several reasons.
>
> gnome is big, it does take it's fare share of ram. I have things i dont
> like about gnome, but compared to the way it's accessibility was when i
> tried it back in 2005 it has come quite a way.
>
> I'm not saying it's perfect by any means, I'm just saying it's better
> then it was before.
>
> On 10/13/2011 04:52 PM, David Csercsics wrote:
> > On 10/13/2011 1:47 PM, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > Steve, I agree with you, as I just said in a response to Attila. If
> > > there's any comfort in this situation, I take comfort from the fact that
> > > it's not just persons with disabilities they've been willing to offend.
> > > Among others, Linus Torvalds has called Gnome 3 unusable and has
> > > switched to XFCE:
> >
> >
> > So on that note what's the status of XFCE and QT support. I would like
> > to switch to those as needed on my netbook and my desktop as well. Gnome
> > 3 just looked like a big bloated multidrirectional mess as you say and
> > it's bigger than I want for a simple customizable minimal GUI. Also when
> > you only have a gig of RAM a big bloated desktop isn't helping. I
> > ditched Windows 7 from the netbook for that reason and I would hate to
> > just bloat back up again with gnome 3 if there's a better alternative. I
> > expect with everything being forcefully shoved off into data centers
> > we're going to have to get a11y stuff on smaller devices like tablets
> > and such or netbooks. Most people now only have bigger boxes for server
> > stuff.
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Christopher (CJ)
chaltain gmail com