Re: [orca-list] Evolution comments

[Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com>]

Hello,
Firstly on the wiki information, I would say certainly mark it as 
historic, there may be still be small bits of use (EG. on the evolution 
page it states what will help declutter the UI which may be helpful). If 
you are getting hints saying gnome projects should be cleaning out old 
information from their wikis then may be let stuff that is certainly all 
historic and of no current use go.

Now to evolution: I don't think I can create a good test case causing 
the crashes, it just seems to be extremely frequently and almost 
anything and everything can crash it. Probably the most extreme case is 
even within the warning message stating that evolution is not my current 
email client, would I like to make it the default, I got a crash just 
tabbing to the no button (getting a crash then determines that it was 
certainly the no button I was heading for). On a larger scale, I had 
probably in the region of ten or more (probbly more, certainly not less) 
crashes just simply removing an email account and adding a new account. 
These seemed to occur at about any stage and really I could not say 
there was anything consistent about what was going on which might have 
caused the crashes.

Is it still worth me submitting a bug report even though I cannot create 
a test case to reproduce the crash (about the only thing I could say is, 
try using evolution with orca running, you will probably get a crash 
within 120 seconds, probably much less). Also should this report go to 
evolution or orca, even if orca is doing something bad, I would imagine 
evolution should try and protect a bit better against bad accessibility 
calls, however I doubt its orca as I said even simple tasks like tabbing 
in a basic dialog (the default email client warning dialog) crashed 
evolution.

Michael Whapples
On -10/01/37 20:59, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> Hey Michael, all.
>
> On 11/19/2011 03:46 PM, Michael Whapples wrote:
>
> > First problem, evolution keeps crashing on me: I am not fully sure
> > what causes it but even just moving around the folder/account tree
> > view can crash it (not all the time but fairly frequently. Might
> > Orca be doing something here to cause such a crash?
>
> Evolution off and on crashes on me even without Orca running. Although I
> do have accessibility enabled all the time. Based on what you said and
> what I've seen, I'm guessing something accessibility-related is making
> Evolution unhappy. <frown>
>
> > The Orca wiki information on accessible applications seem to be
> > fairly dated (eg. it refers to firefox 3). The evolution page on the
> > Orca wiki said very little related to the issues I am having.
>
> I'm quite tempted to remove -- or otherwise preface with a "historical
> document" note -- much of that content. Thoughts? Objections??
>
> > Anything I can do to improve things?
>
> As usual, full steps to reproduce a crash reliably along with a
> debug.out and a bug report are always quite helpful.
>
> Thanks in advance! Take care.
> --joanie