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Re: [orca-list] An interesting Orca/FF4 issue

Hi Trev,
should I make some page with code like Attila's and code like Mike's?

It would have to be minimal 2 pages since the incomplete doctype
might be tripping up FF.

But if this is what you mean, yeah, I'll whip something up today or tomorrow.

-Mallory

On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 07:10:20AM -0400, Trevor Saunders wrote:

On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 01:01:45PM +0200, Mallory van Achterberg wrote:

Hm, this ukad.org page does have a complete doctype and the headers are technically correct 
(tho strange).  The skip links are using an old-fashioned name attribute which, while
no longer encouraged, should not screw up Firefox or Orca.  Everything I find code-wise
on that page *should* work.


would you mind makeing a minimal test case for it? it'll probably make
debugging this easier, and relying on external sites for test cases for
bugs can cause problems when the site goes and changes on you :)

thanks!

Trev



-Mallory
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 04:04:55PM +0100, Michael Whapples wrote:

Hello,
Firstly I do see this issue as well and I do see it on other websites (eg. 
http://www.ukad.org.uk/pages/therapeutic-use-exemptions/).

I know that the change to at-spi2 has caused some other issues with firefox/HTML type things so I will 
have a look (or if you could even better) using at-spi on corba.

What I am trying to do is pin down a change of software which causes this. I have tried with newer 
versions of firefox but the bug is still seen. Did it work with older versions of firefox?

If we can say it seems to be orca, then while may be the website could do something which works (eg. 
the bbc homepage has headings with links which orca speaks correctly) it may still be worth orca being 
changed for this case as it seems common enough that we couldn't chase down all who do this.

Michael Whapples
On 01/-10/37 20:59, Hammer Attila wrote:

Hy,

I see an interesting issue for a webpage when I using Orca and Firefox 4.0, with I don't understand 
why happening:
With my Natty system, following website Orca does'nt spokening link roletype for heading level links, 
only spokening heading level text and heading level number:
http://pcx.hu/termek/asus-eeepc-1018p-blk141s-fekete-notebook-69229
Of course, when I jumping structural navigation keys with a this type heading level link, possible 
activating the link for ENTER key.

This is happening because the webpage is mistake designed for accessibility related, or this is a 
hidden Firefox4 issue? Prewious I newer see this type issue with other webpages, only I think two 
page I see this experience now (other page is a mobile prowider webpage, some time Orca doesn't 
spokening link role type the prowider webpage for arrow keys).
Not only Orca master version I see this issue, 3.0.0 Ubuntu packaged Orca version producing equals 
result this webpage. Hopefuly Orca and Firefox side this is not a bug and only happening the problem 
because mistake designed the webpage.

I attached a debug.out file. What showing the debug.out file for Orca side when I jumping for example 
heading levels this problematic page? If I see right, when I jump this page a heading level link, 
Orca does'nt detecting this role type is a heading level link, detecting the object is a normal 
heading level role.
Other pages Orca detecting right the heading level links, an example:
LOCUS OF FOCUS: app='Firefox' name='EljÃhet az idÅ, amikor nem lesznek bÃkÃsek a rendvÃdelmi 
tÃntetÃsek' role='link'
event=None
KEYEVENT: type=1
id=104
hw_code=43
modifiers=8192
event_string=(h)
is_text=True
timestamp=3799306
time=1304953553.928479
KEYBOARDEVENT: type=1
id=104
hw_code=43
modifiers=0
event_string=(h)
keyval_name=(h)
is_text=True
timestamp=3799306
time=1304953553.928884
orca.isModifierKey: returning: False
----------> QUEUEING 1 'h' (43)
----------> QUEUEING FOCUS:
----------> QUEUEING OBJECT:STATE-CHANGED:FOCUSED
----------> QUEUEING OBJECT:TEXT-CARET-MOVED

generate braille for focused app.name='Firefox' name='EljÃhet az idÅ, amikor nem lesznek bÃkÃsek a 
rendvÃdelmi tÃntetÃsek' role='link' state='enabled focusable focused horizontal opaque sensitive 
showing visible' relations='' (args={'formatType': 'focused', 'useDefaultFormatting': False, 
'includeContext': False, 'role': ROLE_LINK, 'mode': 'braille', 'recursing': True}) using '[Link(obj, 
asString(currentLineText) or asString(displayedText) or asString(name))]'
currentLineText=['Elj\xc3\xb6het az id\xc5\x91, amikor nem lesznek b\xc3\xa9k\xc3\xa9sek a 
rendv\xc3\xa9delmi t\xc3\xbcntet\xc3\xa9sek']
generate braille results:
Link: 'Elj`ohet az id'\x0151'`1 amikor nem lesznek b`ek`esek a r5dv`edelmi t`untet`esek', 0
BRAILLE LINE: 'Elj`ohet az id'\x0151'`1 amikor nem lesznek b`ek`esek a r5dv`edelmi t`untet`esek ;h#a'
VISIBLE: '', cursor=0
SPEECH OUTPUT: 'EljÃhet az idÅ, amikor nem lesznek bÃkÃsek a rendvÃdelmi tÃntetÃsek hivatkozÃs 1. 
cÃmsor szint' voice=system

Attila


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