Re: [orca-list] Orca 3 and Firefox

[Steve Holmes <steve holmes88 gmail com>]

Yes, place your mney down; I got the insider scoop and yes, I think we
would both win and have to divide the spoils. <smile>

I set up some aliases so I can toggle corba on and off with a simple
command in the console.  When corba was set to true, all structural
navigation commands appear to work.  But not while in DBUS mode.

On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 12:23:22AM +0100, Michael Whapples wrote:
> Try setting the gconf key /desktop/gnome/interface/at-spi-corba to
> true to use corba, set to false for dbus. That certainly works for
> me on a system where I upgraded from gnome 2.32. I haven't installed
> a system with gnome 3 from fresh, so couldn't say for that case.
>
> I think I would be prepared to put money on it being dbus causing
> the structural navigation issues you describe (NOTE: I generally
> only put money on certainties).
>
> Michael Whapples
> On 05/05/11 23:35, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > I don't recall how to switch back to CORBA, should that be necessary.
> > I agree though; it is best to stick to the latest stuff if possible
> > since that will be the norm and it does need testing/evaluation/fixing
> > and all that.  I wonder if the DBUS bugs you are encountering is what
> > is breaking the structural navigation in Orca?
> >
> > On 5/5/11, Michael Whapples<mwhapples aim com>  wrote:
> > > I have just tried at-spi on corba and compared it to at-spi on dbus. The
> > > dbus does seem to cause some of the issues noticed. The one I really
> > > tested was the one where I cannot cursor from one frame to another,
> > > corba allows me to cursor but the dbus at-spi requires me to tab into
> > > the next frame.
> > >
> > > Michael Whapples
> > > On 05/05/11 22:03, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > > > Hi, I am at work right now so can't play with the  setup right now but
> > > > I was using FF 4.0 quite happily before the gnome3/ Orca 3 upgrades
> > > > yesterday.  So that's why I point the finger as I do here.  I concur
> > > > with Michael's observations with HTML pages.  I was on
> > > > www.bookshare.org this morning and had an awful time when the page
> > > > loaded and my attempts to use struct. Nav. to find the login button
> > > > and to find tables. I would suggest, go to any page with some markup
> > > > like headers and tables and try using the nav commands to jump around
> > > > the pages.  I haven't installed a git version of Orca 3 yet in case
> > > > that makes a difference.  I will probably upgrade the orca-git package
> > > > in AUR this evening so it will pull the latest orca-3-0 branch and see
> > > > if that makes any difference.  I suppose there could be some other
> > > > gnome related package that broke this nav stuff but I would have no
> > > > idea how to pin that down, were that the case.
> > > >
> > > > On 5/5/11, Michael Whapples<mwhapples aim com>   wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > I have noticed some changes as well since upgrading to orca 3.0.1.
> > > > >
> > > > > * Firstly it seems like the page may not properly be focused when the
> > > > > page loads, odd things happen here (either cursoring doesn't happen or I
> > > > > get jumped to the bottom of the page).
> > > > > * Possibly related to the first there seems to be some pages where
> > > > > pressing down cursor seems to have the cursor somewhere along the line
> > > > > (eg. may be at the right hand end of the line).
> > > > > * Orca does not seem to easily navigate from frame to frames of pages
> > > > > (IE. I certainly cannot just cursor into the next frame). An example of
> > > > > this is a document (any document seems to hold for this) I have
> > > > > converted from PDF to html using pdftohtml has a frame with links for
> > > > > each page and a frame with the page content. I cannot just cursor from
> > > > > the links frame to the content frame. Also if I press control+end in the
> > > > > links frame I just go to the end of the frame. To get to the content
> > > > > frame I must press tab from the last link in the links frame.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you do file bugs let me know if you include any of these.
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael Whapples
> > > > > On 01/-10/37 20:59, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > > > > > I'm not sure what broke here but structural navigation with Firefox 4
> > > > > > plus Orca 3.01 is a mess.  I couldn't navigate to tables nore could I
> > > > > > navigate within the cells of a known table.  This all worked good with
> > > > > > Orca prior to #3.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone have further comments on this? Otherwise, I may have to
> > > > > > start opening up a bunch of new bugs against Orca 3.
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