Re: [orca-list] Orca 3 and Firefox

[Steve Holmes <steve holmes88 gmail com>]

I also find that the treeview of mail folders refreshes properly while
using CORBA but when in DBUS, it does not.  this may have been
mentioned earlier but I forget where.

I also notice that DBUS mode enables Orca to load faster than when
using CORBA.  Some observations to ponder.

On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 12:23:22AM +0100, Michael Whapples wrote:
> Try setting the gconf key /desktop/gnome/interface/at-spi-corba to
> true to use corba, set to false for dbus. That certainly works for
> me on a system where I upgraded from gnome 2.32. I haven't installed
> a system with gnome 3 from fresh, so couldn't say for that case.
>
> I think I would be prepared to put money on it being dbus causing
> the structural navigation issues you describe (NOTE: I generally
> only put money on certainties).
>
> Michael Whapples
> On 05/05/11 23:35, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > I don't recall how to switch back to CORBA, should that be necessary.
> > I agree though; it is best to stick to the latest stuff if possible
> > since that will be the norm and it does need testing/evaluation/fixing
> > and all that.  I wonder if the DBUS bugs you are encountering is what
> > is breaking the structural navigation in Orca?
> >
> > On 5/5/11, Michael Whapples<mwhapples aim com>  wrote:
> > > I have just tried at-spi on corba and compared it to at-spi on dbus. The
> > > dbus does seem to cause some of the issues noticed. The one I really
> > > tested was the one where I cannot cursor from one frame to another,
> > > corba allows me to cursor but the dbus at-spi requires me to tab into
> > > the next frame.
> > >
> > > Michael Whapples
> > > On 05/05/11 22:03, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > > > Hi, I am at work right now so can't play with the  setup right now but
> > > > I was using FF 4.0 quite happily before the gnome3/ Orca 3 upgrades
> > > > yesterday.  So that's why I point the finger as I do here.  I concur
> > > > with Michael's observations with HTML pages.  I was on
> > > > www.bookshare.org this morning and had an awful time when the page
> > > > loaded and my attempts to use struct. Nav. to find the login button
> > > > and to find tables. I would suggest, go to any page with some markup
> > > > like headers and tables and try using the nav commands to jump around
> > > > the pages.  I haven't installed a git version of Orca 3 yet in case
> > > > that makes a difference.  I will probably upgrade the orca-git package
> > > > in AUR this evening so it will pull the latest orca-3-0 branch and see
> > > > if that makes any difference.  I suppose there could be some other
> > > > gnome related package that broke this nav stuff but I would have no
> > > > idea how to pin that down, were that the case.
> > > >
> > > > On 5/5/11, Michael Whapples<mwhapples aim com>   wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > I have noticed some changes as well since upgrading to orca 3.0.1.
> > > > >
> > > > > * Firstly it seems like the page may not properly be focused when the
> > > > > page loads, odd things happen here (either cursoring doesn't happen or I
> > > > > get jumped to the bottom of the page).
> > > > > * Possibly related to the first there seems to be some pages where
> > > > > pressing down cursor seems to have the cursor somewhere along the line
> > > > > (eg. may be at the right hand end of the line).
> > > > > * Orca does not seem to easily navigate from frame to frames of pages
> > > > > (IE. I certainly cannot just cursor into the next frame). An example of
> > > > > this is a document (any document seems to hold for this) I have
> > > > > converted from PDF to html using pdftohtml has a frame with links for
> > > > > each page and a frame with the page content. I cannot just cursor from
> > > > > the links frame to the content frame. Also if I press control+end in the
> > > > > links frame I just go to the end of the frame. To get to the content
> > > > > frame I must press tab from the last link in the links frame.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you do file bugs let me know if you include any of these.
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael Whapples
> > > > > On 01/-10/37 20:59, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > > > > > I'm not sure what broke here but structural navigation with Firefox 4
> > > > > > plus Orca 3.01 is a mess.  I couldn't navigate to tables nore could I
> > > > > > navigate within the cells of a known table.  This all worked good with
> > > > > > Orca prior to #3.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone have further comments on this? Otherwise, I may have to
> > > > > > start opening up a bunch of new bugs against Orca 3.
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