Re: [orca-list] How to improve my navigation with Orca in Firefox?

[Dave Hunt <ka1cey gmail com>]

Also, assuming we know enough of the text of Link #65 in the example, we 
can use the 'find links' firefox command, and jump right there!


-Dave




On 24/06/11 15:58, Steve Holmes wrote:
> Yes, you can navigate more easily in Orca than what you have described
> so far.  Unfortunately, there isn't a command to skip all links like
> there is in Window-Eyes but you can skip over multiple links at a
> time.  This can be done in several ways.  If it happens that the the
> links are in a table, you can use the Shift+Alt+arrow keys to move
> around inside the table.  So you can read down a particular column if
> you wish.  Now if there are several links on a single line of text
> like with many navigation banners, then simply press the down arrow
> and it will move down to the next logical line on the page.  Remember
> that Orca thankfully, does not use a virtual buffer and therefore,
> does not sling the links into a verticle list with one per line.  So
> if you hear a bunch of links on a single line and you don't want any
> of them, then just press down arrow and they are all skipped.  So to
> use your previous example, just press down arrow 6 times and then
> start tabbing over on the line of the relevant link.
>
> Hope this helps.  Oh, there are also other structural navigation
> commands like h to jump headers, p to jump paragraphs, t to jump to to
> tables, etc.  See the key bindings list for more details.
>
> On 6/24/11, luciano de souza<luchyanus gmail com>  wrote:
> > Hi listers,
> >
> > The last version of Orca has improved many aspects concerning to
> > performance. Now, it's possible to freely navigate among thousands of
> > messages in Thunderbird. It's also confortable to list and navigate in
> > /usr/bin with its thousands of items.
> >
> > In spite of this unquestionable evolution, the navigation in Firefox
> > is sllow and uncofortable:
> >
> > 1. Having typed a new address, often, a long time is spent before Orca
> > speaks something. As I don't have a sound feedback, I press repetely
> > the tab key without feeling any effect.
> >
> > 2. Orca has a magic keystroke to search text. It's the "o" key.
> > However, when I am not searching text, the confort is reduced.
> >
> > When a large number of tabs is required, the navigation is bad. Yes,
> > here are lots of keys to navigate between headers, paragraphs, tables,
> > blocks, visited and unvisited links. but I don't know how to navigate
> > between blocks of links.
> >
> > In Windows, using NVDA, I can press ctrl + downarrow to navigate  from
> > a block of links, horizontally aligned, to another block.
> >
> > This keystroke increase the speed of navigation. If I have 100 links,
> > distributed in 10 rows of 10 links, if I want to reach the 65th link,
> > in stead of pressing tab 65 times, I can press ctrl + downarrow 6
> > times and tab 5 times.
> >
> > Can we navigate with Orca in a similar way?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Luciano
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