Re: [orca-list] Orca and gnome 3: no speech; could Pulseaudio be the reason?

["Albert Sten-Clanton" <albert e sten_clanton verizon net>]

I so far have no speech with Orca and Gnome 3.  I tried removing Pulseaudio,
since that has been a problem before, but got an error that gnome-session
and something else need it.  Is Pulseaudio more integrated into Gnome 3 than
in earlier Gnome versions?  Also, I know Arch Linux users have had dubious
experiences with Pulseaudio, but can one of them point me to instructions on
its use?

Thanks!

Al 

-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On
Behalf Of Michael Whapples
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 6:16 AM
To: Joanmarie Diggs
Cc: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Orca and gnome 3

On -10/01/37 20:59, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> Hi Jacob, all.
>
> Some applications not appearing/emitting events is a known issue. And 
> I hope to diagnose and fix it soon.

Hopefully this can be fixed soon as this for me at least is probably the
biggest issue facing orca with gnome 3.0 currently. Unfortunately until this
is sorted, I don't really gnome 3.0 is ready for use and I just hope
archlinux don't decide to move it into the standard repository until this
sort of stuff is sorted.
> There were known issues related to starting and stopping of Orca. I
> *believe* I've got all of those fixed, though I plan to do additional 
> testing. Unfortunately, those changes required a bunch of testing to 
> be sure they were safe. By the time I had fully tested them and 
> requested code freeze break, I did not get the required number of 
> approvals from the Release Team. That was my fault. Regardless, the 
> result is that I was not allowed to commit the needed changes until 
> code freeze was lifted. Thus the 3.0.0 release of Orca was out the 
> door, and then the fixes committed.

As I said I haven't really had issues with orca starting or stopping. 
May be its one of those timing things and I may just be fortunate with the
computer I have tried it on.
> So in order to get the most likely chance of success with GNOME 3.0 at 
> the moment (notice that I didn't say "full success"), you'll want to 
> have the latest Orca **from the gnome-3-0 branch**. In this particular 
> case, you do *not* want Orca from master. There are enough differences 
> in what we need to do for GNOME 3 compared to other environments that 
> if it's specifically related to GNOME 3, it's only going into the 
> branch *for now*. As things settle down, Ale and I will find a way to 
> have a single Orca which happily lives in whatever environment you 
> choose to use.


> Shame the fixes couldn't make the release as that is what the
distributions ship with. For archlinux, may be we need to look at a AUR
orca-3-git package to follow the 3.0 branch.

As for finding a solution for a single orca, sure that is possible as python
can do so much at runtime, conditionally importing, etc. Is the main problem
detecting what the user is running?

Michael Whapples
> Take care.
> --joanie

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