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Re: [orca-list] Orca speech in Calc sheets

It will be very welcome to have this functionality for Orca reading the sheet name. With over 15 sheets to work with. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Holmes" <steve holmes88 gmail com> 
To: "Orca E-mail List" <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 2:41 AM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Orca speech in Calc sheets



Replying back on list to keep this discussion more alive.

Yes, I see what you mean.  The status bar doesn't show the sheet
names; I hadn't realized that before.  When I was flat reviewing just
now, I noticed that the sheet names are up a couple lines from the
status bar.  This does bring up some questions about how this part of
OOo Calc works.  I'm wondering if there are mini status bars for each
window or something.  I found that if I click on the sheet name, it
will take focus from the other sheet back to this one.  I wonder what
a trip with Accerciser might reveal in this area.  If nothing else,
maybe some sort of hot keys to read those selected parts of the screen
but I don't think Orca has functionality to support that kind of
thing.

Boy, that's a long way around to say that you're right in what you
observe.  One think you could do for now is use the status bar to tell
you which sheet you're in by number and then use flat review to go up
a couple lines past the row of push buttons and then listen to the
sheet names.  Well, that worked for me because I only had one sheet
given a new name; the others were unnamed.  If all the sheets in your
spreadsheet are named, this idea might not work to well.  Although, I
think the sheet names should be in numerical order.  Might have to do
some playing around for now until some of us programmer types might be
able to figure something better out.

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 09:28:03PM +0200, Milton wrote:

Hi Steve,
Indeed Orca reads the statusline pressing Orca+KP_Enter twice, I
didn't thought of that.
But the statusline do not display the name of the current sheet, it
says sheet 1 / 3.
Starting the flat review I navigate to the bottum and it reads the
names of the 3 sheets in the tabs correctly. So it do not tell what
the current sheet is called.
Milton

----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Holmes"
<steve holmes88 gmail com>
To: <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Orca speech in Calc sheets


>On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 04:27:37PM +0200, Milton wrote:
>>Hello List,
>>I am using Ubuntu Lucid and Orca 2.32.0 pre.
>>In OpenOffice Calc I use several sheets and each sheet has his own >>name. 
>>With ctrl + pagedown or page up I navigate between the sheets.
>>Is there a way that Orca can speak the name of the sheet?
>>How can I get this done if it is maybe a matter of the Orca settings?
>
>The best you can do for now is press the Orca+KP_Enter key combination
>twice in rapid succession.  This will read the status line and the
>status line contains the sheet name.  In a default spreadsheet, you
>should hear "Sheet 1" or "Sheet 2" or "Sheet 3" depending on which
>sheet you're in at the moment.  When you press the Ctrl+pgup or
>Ctrl+pgdn, that entry will change as you mentioned in your post.  You
>can use the flat review keys to see the sheet name two but
>unfortunately, the current design of flat review keeps that area from
>being updated in Orca until you go out of flat review and back in.  So
>reading the status line with the hot key is your best option for now.
>
>I would like to add a feature that will cause any text that
>dynamically changes in the status bar to be spoken on a text change so
>if you change sheets like this, it would automatically be spoken; I'd
>like to do a similar thing to Writer so you can get this sort of thing
>when you change from one page to the next in a document This idea of
>mine should also cause changes in the insert/overwrite status to speak
>automatically when the key is pressed.
>
>This is on my todo list.
>
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