Re: [orca-list] Draft Proposed Two-Year Roadmap

[Steve Holmes <steve holmes88 gmail com>]

True enough, the checkboxes could be toggled with a shortcut but it
would still take another keypress of the OK button to force out the
dialog; but now we're down to counting individual keypresses to
accomplish a task.  anyway, like I've said before, this links list
deal could become a mini subsystem with optional filters and the like
but the original patch may be a good beginning.

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 02:14:11PM -0400, Jared Wright wrote:
> You could still tie each checkbox to a certain accelerator hotkey
> and get the same functionality with one keypress. Unless I'm too
> chronicly sleep deprived and have forgotten that checkboxes can't
> have accelerator keys for some reason??? I only just now realized
> that the default action on this list is to reply to sender instead
> of reply to list  so it's possible. *grin*
> On 09/10/2010 02:08 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > That does bring up a different flexibility for sure.  the idea of
> > single buttons or separate hot keys wouldn't offer this.  My original
> > response was addressing particularly the idea of a separate hot key
> > for each type list.  The checkboxes would necessitate one tabbing
> > through the thing to select the type of items to filter.  Hum, sounds
> > like this could be addressed in several different ways.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 02:04:17PM -0400, Jared Wright wrote:
> > > May I suggest checkboxes vs. buttons, so you could mix and match
> > > elements types being shown, I.E. display more than one type but not
> > > all elements. It'd be niche usage to be sure, but if it only comes
> > > down to picking one UI control type Vs. another, why not?
> > > On 09/10/2010 01:13 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 10:16:09PM +0200, Marcus Habermehl wrote:
> > > > > In JAWS you select what you want with JAWS+F5 (form fields), JAWS+F6
> > > > > (links) or JAWS+F7 (headings) and then you can select an entry. That is
> > > > > easier and clearer than the version of NVDA.
> > > > >
> > > > > I really don't know what's better to use. Three different lists, or a
> > > > > single list with 'sections'.
> > > > >
> > > > > I could split the current list into four. All item, links, form fields
> > > > > and headings. But, is this really necessary?
> > > > I wouldn't think so.  If we begin using separate hot keys to pop up
> > > > different list types and this filtering was to be expanded, you can
> > > > see how quickly precious screen reader hot keys could be used up.  I
> > > > would think either the current proposed tree view approach would be
> > > > good or maybe a dialog with 3 or 4 buttons where they could be pushed
> > > > by typing the appropriate shortcut key.  Thus, you would have a
> > > > maximum of two keystrokes to press to invoke the desired list of
> > > > filtered links.  In fact as I think about this, I like this idea best.
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