Re: [orca-list] Question about notification icon events and their accessible objects

[Joanmarie Diggs <joanmarie diggs gmail com>]

Hi Storm.

That would be a hack. Icons should have a name.

--joanie

On Fri, 2010-05-07 at 18:24 -0400, Storm Dragon wrote:
> Hi,
> Some icons are read if you press ctrl+f1. Couldn't the code be altered
> to make the key press unnecessary? Wen Orca encounters an icon it just
> executes the code automatically instead of waiting for ctrl+f1.
> Thanks
> Storm
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> On Fri, 2010-05-07 at 18:08 -0400, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: 
> > Hi Bill.
> >
> > On Fri, 2010-05-07 at 11:15 -0400, Bill Cox wrote:
> > > I'm trying to figure out why icons in the notification area of the
> > > gnome-panel read "icon", and don't say the title of the icon, even if
> > > the programmer has gone to the trouble of assigning the icon a title
> > > for screen readers.
> >
> > We need the icon to have a name.
> >
> > >   In Accerciser, I can see events like:
> > >
> > > object:state-changed:focused(1, 0, None)
> > >   source: [icon | ]
> > >   application: [application | gnome-volume-control-applet]
> >
> > Looks like the icon doesn't have a name.
> >
> > > I assume this causes Orca to say "icon".
> >
> > Yup.
> >
> > > icon.  When I click on the link in source: [icon | ], it doesn't do
> > > anything.  I assume this is because no accessible object was ever
> > > created for that icon.  Is this correct?
> >
> > Hard to say without looking at it. Could be an Accerciser thing. Failing
> > that, here's my theory (based on experience with similar situations):
> > Some Gtk+ widget -- which does not have a corresponding accessible
> > object representing itself to us -- becomes focused. That's resulting in
> > corresponding accessible events. Those events are, in turn, resulting in
> > the creation of an accessible object. And the object which is being
> > created lacks a name.
> >
> > > Does Orca act on messages
> > > from objects that have no accessible object?
> >
> > Not possible AFAIK.
> >
> > > I would prefer that in this case, Orca would read the icon title, or
> > > if that's not set, the tooltip for the applet.
> >
> > I would prefer that the icon be named correctly, because if you get that
> > icon a name, Orca should automatically present it as you expect. :-)
> >
> > Given that the programmer has gone to the trouble of assigning the icon
> > a title for screen readers, what I'd be investigating are:
> >
> > 1. Does title mean accessible name, or does it mean something else (like
> > accessible object description or accessible image description)?
> >
> > 2. What widget has this title?
> >
> > 3. What widget is claiming focus?
> >
> > 4. Is the widget from question 2 the same widget as the one from
> > question 3? (i.e. and not a child or ancestor)
> >
> > HTH.
> > --joanie
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