Re: [orca-list] Question about notification icon events and their accessible objects

[Storm Dragon <stormdragon2976 gmail com>]

Hi,
Some icons are read if you press ctrl+f1. Couldn't the code be altered to make the key press unnecessary? Wen Orca encounters an icon it just executes the code automatically instead of waiting for ctrl+f1.
Thanks
Storm

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On Fri, 2010-05-07 at 18:08 -0400, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> Hi Bill.
>
> On Fri, 2010-05-07 at 11:15 -0400, Bill Cox wrote:
> > I'm trying to figure out why icons in the notification area of the
> > gnome-panel read "icon", and don't say the title of the icon, even if
> > the programmer has gone to the trouble of assigning the icon a title
> > for screen readers.
>
> We need the icon to have a name.
>
> >   In Accerciser, I can see events like:
> > 
> > object:state-changed:focused(1, 0, None)
> > 	source: [icon | ]
> > 	application: [application | gnome-volume-control-applet]
>
> Looks like the icon doesn't have a name.
>
> > I assume this causes Orca to say "icon".
>
> Yup.
>
> > icon.  When I click on the link in source: [icon | ], it doesn't do
> > anything.  I assume this is because no accessible object was ever
> > created for that icon.  Is this correct?
>
> Hard to say without looking at it. Could be an Accerciser thing. Failing
> that, here's my theory (based on experience with similar situations):
> Some Gtk+ widget -- which does not have a corresponding accessible
> object representing itself to us -- becomes focused. That's resulting in
> corresponding accessible events. Those events are, in turn, resulting in
> the creation of an accessible object. And the object which is being
> created lacks a name.
>
> > Does Orca act on messages
> > from objects that have no accessible object?
>
> Not possible AFAIK.
>
> > I would prefer that in this case, Orca would read the icon title, or
> > if that's not set, the tooltip for the applet.
>
> I would prefer that the icon be named correctly, because if you get that
> icon a name, Orca should automatically present it as you expect. :-)
>
> Given that the programmer has gone to the trouble of assigning the icon
> a title for screen readers, what I'd be investigating are:
>
> 1. Does title mean accessible name, or does it mean something else (like
> accessible object description or accessible image description)?
>
> 2. What widget has this title?
>
> 3. What widget is claiming focus?
>
> 4. Is the widget from question 2 the same widget as the one from
> question 3? (i.e. and not a child or ancestor)
>
> HTH.
> --joanie
>
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