Re: [orca-list] Disabled Controls

[Joanmarie Diggs <joanied gnome org>]

Hi Jared.

On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 09:39 -0400, Jared Wright wrote:
> behavior if possible. As of now, navigating anything by keyboard, be it 
> a self-contained dialogue or a menu or whatever, skips over disabled 
> items.

If you're just tabbing/arrowing around, that is the same behavior as is
seen without using Orca. Like Luke suggested, I believe that's a
GNOME/Gtk+ thing.

As for accessing these items in Orca: 

In a dialog box you should find that you can flat review to them. I can
anyway. Ideally, Orca should indicate when an item you flat review to is
unavailable/"grayed". It does not. Making that change shouldn't be hard
to do.

Orca's flat review doesn't let you review menus. I can't recall why
*exactly*, but I think Will had said that there was some problem which
prevented us from doing so. I'll investigate that later. In the
meantime, if you use whereAmI in a menu it should tell you the item
number you're on and the item count. So if a menu is small (e.g. the
Edit menu in gnome-terminal), you can compare them item count Orca
reports (six) with the number of items you can arrow to (four) and
conclude that some items (two) are unavailable. Now we just need to
figure out how to present those items to you. Perhaps a detailed where
Am I?? I'm open to suggestions....

HTH.
--joanie