Re: [orca-list] Orca becomes unresponsive periodically on Linux Mint 9

[Trevor Saunders <trev saunders gmail com>]

HI,

well, actually it looks like you may have to  find the pid of the mint-update thing and kil it with that 
since its just python being invoked with a script.

Trev


On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 03:57:19PM -0400, Kyle wrote:
> Hi, and thanks for the quick response.
>
> Yes, I can see that mint-update is running as a process under my
> username. I didn't think it was much different from update-notifier,
> so I didn't give it much of a thought. On Ubuntu, update-notifier
> runs in the background and puts an icon in the notification area
> when updates become available. Mint-update appears at first glance
> to do the same thing. I did notice, however, that if I activate the
> mint-update icon when it's in my notification panel, Orca hangs
> completely, and only a reboot can solve the problem. I also didn't
> consider mint-update to be the potential cause of the problem, since
> it appears to be running all the time, even when Orca is responsive.
> However, it's possible that it's calling something else that hangs
> Orca or the at-spi or something else entirely.
>
> I also am including here the process line for mint-update, in case
> it can help. This was read from ps during a time that Orca was
> unresponsive.
>
> kyle      1496  0.0  1.1 411308 11740 ?        Sl   Jul17   0:07
> python /usr/lib/linuxmint/mintUpdate/mintUpdate.py
>
> Very shortly after I took this reading, I restarted orca and it came
> back to life with no difficulty until the next time. Also, Here's
> the output of the uptime and ps commands that Trever recommended,
> which I also received during a period of unresponsiveness:
>
> uptime
>
>  15:38:31 up 22:32,  3 users,  load average: 2.00, 1.56, 1.38
>
> ps -e -o %cpu,cmd | sort -n
>
>  0.0
>  0.0
>  0.0
>  0.0 acpid -c /etc/acpi/events -s /var/run/acpid.socket
>  0.0 [aio/0]
>  0.0 [aio/1]
>  0.0 [async/mgr]
>  0.0 [ata/0]
>  0.0 [ata/1]
>  0.0 [ata_aux]
>  0.0 atd
>  0.0 avahi-daemon: chroot helper
>  0.0 avahi-daemon: registering [mint.local]
>  0.0 bash
>  0.0 -bash
>  0.0 [bdi-default]
>  0.0 /bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 9 --session
>  0.0 /bin/login --
>  0.0 /bin/sh -c gnome-terminal
>  0.0 /bin/sh -c /home/kyle/reset
>  0.0 /bin/sh -c /usr/bin/compiz-decorator
>  0.0 /bin/sh /home/kyle/reset
>  0.0 /bin/sh /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0.5/run-mozilla.sh
> /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0.5/thunderbird-bin
>  0.0 /bin/sh /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0.5/thunderbird
>  0.0 [bluetooth]
>  0.0 bluetooth-applet
>  0.0 [cpuset]
>  0.0 cron
>  0.0 [crypto/0]
>  0.0 [crypto/1]
>  0.0 dbus-daemon --system --fork
>  0.0 [ecryptfs-kthrea]
>  0.0 [edac-poller]
>  0.0 [events/0]
>  0.0 [events/1]
>  0.0 [ext4-dio-unwrit]
>  0.0 [ext4-dio-unwrit]
>  0.0 [ext4-dio-unwrit]
>  0.0 [ext4-dio-unwrit]
>  0.0 [flush-8:0]
>  0.0 gdm-binary
>  0.0 gnome-panel
>  0.0 gnome-power-manager
>  0.0 gnome-pty-helper
>  0.0 gnome-session
>  0.0 hald-addon-acpi: listening on acpid socket /var/run/acpid.socket
>  0.0 hald-addon-input: Listening on /dev/input/event5
> /dev/input/event4 /dev/input/event0 /dev/input/event1
>  0.0 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sr0 (every 2 sec)
>  0.0 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sr1 (every 2 sec)
>  0.0 hald-runner
>  0.0 [jbd2/sda1-8]
>  0.0 [jbd2/sda2-8]
>  0.0 [kacpid]
>  0.0 [kacpi_hotplug]
>  0.0 [kacpi_notify]
>  0.0 [kblockd/0]
>  0.0 [kblockd/1]
>  0.0 [kconservative/0]
>  0.0 [kconservative/1]
>  0.0 [kgameportd]
>  0.0 [khelper]
>  0.0 [khpsbpkt]
>  0.0 [khubd]
>  0.0 [khungtaskd]
>  0.0 [kintegrityd/0]
>  0.0 [kintegrityd/1]
>  0.0 [kmmcd]
>  0.0 [kmpathd/0]
>  0.0 [kmpathd/1]
>  0.0 [kmpath_handlerd]
>  0.0 [knodemgrd_0]
>  0.0 [kondemand/0]
>  0.0 [kondemand/1]
>  0.0 [kpsmoused]
>  0.0 [krfcommd]
>  0.0 [kseriod]
>  0.0 [ksmd]
>  0.0 [ksnapd]
>  0.0 [ksoftirqd/0]
>  0.0 [ksoftirqd/1]
>  0.0 [kstriped]
>  0.0 [ksuspend_usbd]
>  0.0 [kswapd0]
>  0.0 [kthreadd]
>  0.0 [migration/0]
>  0.0 [migration/1]
>  0.0 [netns]
>  0.0 NetworkManager
>  0.0 nm-applet --sm-disable
>  0.0 nmbd -D
>  0.0 [pm]
>  0.0 ps -e -o %cpu,cmd
>  0.0 python /usr/lib/linuxmint/mintUpdate/mintUpdate.py
>  0.0 [radeon/0]
>  0.0 [radeon/1]
>  0.0 rsyslogd -c4
>  0.0 /sbin/dhclient -d -sf
> /usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-client.action -pf
> /var/run/dhclient-eth1.pid -lf /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient-99177cef-4276-486d-8420-fccc550f56f7-eth1.lease
> -cf /var/run/nm-dhclient-eth1.conf eth1
>  0.0 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty2
>  0.0 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty3
>  0.0 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty4
>  0.0 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty5
>  0.0 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty6
>  0.0 /sbin/init
>  0.0 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -u -s
>  0.0 [scsi_eh_0]
>  0.0 [scsi_eh_1]
>  0.0 [scsi_eh_2]
>  0.0 [scsi_eh_4]
>  0.0 [scsi_eh_5]
>  0.0 smbd -F
>  0.0 smbd -F
>  0.0 sort -n
>  0.0 speech-dispatcher
>  0.0 [sync_supers]
>  0.0 [ttm_swap]
>  0.0 udevd --daemon
>  0.0 udevd --daemon
>  0.0 udevd --daemon
>  0.0 udisks-daemon: polling /dev/sr1 /dev/sr0
>  0.0 upstart-udev-bridge --daemon
>  0.0 [usbhid_resumer]
>  0.0 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session
>  0.0 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --start --components=ssh
>  0.0 /usr/bin/gnome-screensaver
>  0.0 /usr/bin/gtk-window-decorator
>  0.0 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session
> gnome-session
>  0.0 /usr/lib/bonobo-activation/bonobo-activation-server
> --ac-activate --ior-output-fd=17
>  0.0 /usr/lib/gdm/gdm-session-worker
>  0.0 /usr/lib/gdm/gdm-simple-slave --display-id
> /org/gnome/DisplayManager/Display1
>  0.0 /usr/lib/gnome-panel/clock-applet
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=27
>  0.0 /usr/lib/gnome-panel/notification-area-applet
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_NotificationAreaApplet_Factory
> --oaf-ior-fd=39
>  0.0 /usr/lib/gnome-panel/wnck-applet
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_Wncklet_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=21
>  0.0 /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gnome-settings-daemon
>  0.0 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-afc-volume-monitor
>  0.0 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd
>  0.0 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-burn --spawner :1.10 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/1
>  0.0 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-computer --spawner :1.10 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/3
>  0.0 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-http --spawner :1.10 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/2
>  0.0 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-metadata
>  0.0 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-trash --spawner :1.10 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/0
>  0.0 /usr/lib/gvfs//gvfs-fuse-daemon /home/kyle/.gvfs
>  0.0 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-gdu-volume-monitor
>  0.0 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor
>  0.0 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-cpufreq
>  0.0 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-rfkill-killswitch
>  0.0 /usr/lib/indicator-applet/indicator-applet
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_IndicatorApplet_Factory
> --oaf-ior-fd=33
>  0.0 /usr/lib/indicator-application/indicator-application-service
>  0.0 /usr/lib/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service
>  0.0 /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2
>  0.0 /usr/lib/notify-osd/notify-osd
>  0.0 /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1
>  0.0 /usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd
>  0.0 /usr/lib/pulseaudio/pulse/gconf-helper
>  0.0 /usr/lib/rtkit/rtkit-daemon
>  0.0 /usr/lib/udisks/udisks-daemon
>  0.0 /usr/lib/upower/upowerd
>  0.0 /usr/sbin/bluetoothd --udev
>  0.0 /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon
>  0.0 /usr/sbin/cupsd -C /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
>  0.0 /usr/sbin/hald
>  0.0 /usr/sbin/irqbalance
>  0.0 /usr/sbin/modem-manager
>  0.0 [watchdog/0]
>  0.0 [watchdog/1]
> %CPU CMD
>  0.1 nautilus
>  0.1 [scsi_eh_3]
>  0.3 /usr/bin/compiz
>  0.4 gnome-terminal
>  0.4 pidgin
>  0.8 /usr/lib/at-spi/at-spi-registryd
>  1.2 /usr/bin/X :0 -nr -verbose -auth
> /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-Y0s9LU/database -nolisten tcp vt7
>  1.3
>  1.3 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
>  5.6 /usr/bin/python -c import orca.orca; orca.orca.main() --replace
> 39.4 /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0.5/thunderbird-bin
>
> ps -e -o %mem,cmd | sort -n
>
>  0.0
>  0.0
>  0.0 acpid -c /etc/acpi/events -s /var/run/acpid.socket
>  0.0 [aio/0]
>  0.0 [aio/1]
>  0.0 [async/mgr]
>  0.0 [ata/0]
>  0.0 [ata/1]
>  0.0 [ata_aux]
>  0.0 atd
>  0.0 avahi-daemon: chroot helper
>  0.0 avahi-daemon: registering [mint.local]
>  0.0 -bash
>  0.0 [bdi-default]
>  0.0 /bin/login --
>  0.0 /bin/sh -c gnome-terminal
>  0.0 /bin/sh -c /home/kyle/reset
>  0.0 /bin/sh -c /usr/bin/compiz-decorator
>  0.0 /bin/sh /home/kyle/reset
>  0.0 /bin/sh /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0.5/run-mozilla.sh
> /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0.5/thunderbird-bin
>  0.0 /bin/sh /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0.5/thunderbird
>  0.0 [bluetooth]
>  0.0 [cpuset]
>  0.0 cron
>  0.0 [crypto/0]
>  0.0 [crypto/1]
>  0.0 [ecryptfs-kthrea]
>  0.0 [edac-poller]
>  0.0 [events/0]
>  0.0 [events/1]
>  0.0 [ext4-dio-unwrit]
>  0.0 [ext4-dio-unwrit]
>  0.0 [ext4-dio-unwrit]
>  0.0 [ext4-dio-unwrit]
>  0.0 [flush-8:0]
>  0.0 gnome-pty-helper
>  0.0 hald-addon-acpi: listening on acpid socket /var/run/acpid.socket
>  0.0 hald-addon-input: Listening on /dev/input/event5
> /dev/input/event4 /dev/input/event0 /dev/input/event1
>  0.0 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sr0 (every 2 sec)
>  0.0 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sr1 (every 2 sec)
>  0.0 hald-runner
>  0.0 [jbd2/sda1-8]
>  0.0 [jbd2/sda2-8]
>  0.0 [kacpid]
>  0.0 [kacpi_hotplug]
>  0.0 [kacpi_notify]
>  0.0 [kblockd/0]
>  0.0 [kblockd/1]
>  0.0 [kconservative/0]
>  0.0 [kconservative/1]
>  0.0 [kgameportd]
>  0.0 [khelper]
>  0.0 [khpsbpkt]
>  0.0 [khubd]
>  0.0 [khungtaskd]
>  0.0 [kintegrityd/0]
>  0.0 [kintegrityd/1]
>  0.0 [kmmcd]
>  0.0 [kmpathd/0]
>  0.0 [kmpathd/1]
>  0.0 [kmpath_handlerd]
>  0.0 [knodemgrd_0]
>  0.0 [kondemand/0]
>  0.0 [kondemand/1]
>  0.0 [kpsmoused]
>  0.0 [krfcommd]
>  0.0 [kseriod]
>  0.0 [ksmd]
>  0.0 [ksnapd]
>  0.0 [ksoftirqd/0]
>  0.0 [ksoftirqd/1]
>  0.0 [kstriped]
>  0.0 [ksuspend_usbd]
>  0.0 [kswapd0]
>  0.0 [kthreadd]
>  0.0 [migration/0]
>  0.0 [migration/1]
>  0.0 [netns]
>  0.0 nmbd -D
>  0.0 [pm]
>  0.0 ps -e -o %mem,cmd
>  0.0 [radeon/0]
>  0.0 [radeon/1]
>  0.0 rsyslogd -c4
>  0.0 /sbin/dhclient -d -sf
> /usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-client.action -pf
> /var/run/dhclient-eth1.pid -lf /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient-99177cef-4276-486d-8420-fccc550f56f7-eth1.lease
> -cf /var/run/nm-dhclient-eth1.conf eth1
>  0.0 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty2
>  0.0 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty3
>  0.0 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty4
>  0.0 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty5
>  0.0 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty6
>  0.0 /sbin/init
>  0.0 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -u -s
>  0.0 [scsi_eh_0]
>  0.0 [scsi_eh_1]
>  0.0 [scsi_eh_2]
>  0.0 [scsi_eh_3]
>  0.0 [scsi_eh_4]
>  0.0 [scsi_eh_5]
>  0.0 smbd -F
>  0.0 smbd -F
>  0.0 sort -n
>  0.0 speech-dispatcher
>  0.0 [sync_supers]
>  0.0 [ttm_swap]
>  0.0 udevd --daemon
>  0.0 udevd --daemon
>  0.0 udevd --daemon
>  0.0 udisks-daemon: polling /dev/sr1 /dev/sr0
>  0.0 upstart-udev-bridge --daemon
>  0.0 [usbhid_resumer]
>  0.0 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session
>  0.0 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --start --components=ssh
>  0.0 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session
> gnome-session
>  0.0 /usr/lib/gdm/gdm-session-worker
>  0.0 /usr/lib/gdm/gdm-simple-slave --display-id
> /org/gnome/DisplayManager/Display1
>  0.0 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-afc-volume-monitor
>  0.0 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-burn --spawner :1.10 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/1
>  0.0 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-computer --spawner :1.10 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/3
>  0.0 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-metadata
>  0.0 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-trash --spawner :1.10 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/0
>  0.0 /usr/lib/gvfs//gvfs-fuse-daemon /home/kyle/.gvfs
>  0.0 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor
>  0.0 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-cpufreq
>  0.0 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-rfkill-killswitch
>  0.0 /usr/lib/pulseaudio/pulse/gconf-helper
>  0.0 /usr/lib/rtkit/rtkit-daemon
>  0.0 /usr/sbin/bluetoothd --udev
>  0.0 /usr/sbin/cupsd -C /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
>  0.0 /usr/sbin/irqbalance
>  0.0 [watchdog/0]
>  0.0 [watchdog/1]
> %MEM CMD
>  0.1
>  0.1 /bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 9 --session
>  0.1 dbus-daemon --system --fork
>  0.1 gdm-binary
>  0.1 NetworkManager
>  0.1 /usr/lib/bonobo-activation/bonobo-activation-server
> --ac-activate --ior-output-fd=17
>  0.1 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd
>  0.1 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-http --spawner :1.10 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/2
>  0.1 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-gdu-volume-monitor
>  0.1 /usr/lib/indicator-application/indicator-application-service
>  0.1 /usr/lib/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service
>  0.1 /usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd
>  0.1 /usr/lib/udisks/udisks-daemon
>  0.1 /usr/lib/upower/upowerd
>  0.1 /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon
>  0.1 /usr/sbin/hald
>  0.1 /usr/sbin/modem-manager
>  0.2 gnome-power-manager
>  0.2 gnome-session
>  0.2 /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2
>  0.2 /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1
>  0.3 bash
>  0.3 bluetooth-applet
>  0.3 nm-applet --sm-disable
>  0.3 /usr/bin/gnome-screensaver
>  0.3 /usr/lib/gnome-panel/notification-area-applet
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_NotificationAreaApplet_Factory
> --oaf-ior-fd=39
>  0.3 /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gnome-settings-daemon
>  0.3 /usr/lib/indicator-applet/indicator-applet
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_IndicatorApplet_Factory
> --oaf-ior-fd=33
>  0.4
>  0.4 /usr/lib/gnome-panel/clock-applet
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=27
>  0.5 /usr/bin/compiz
>  0.5 /usr/bin/gtk-window-decorator
>  0.6 /usr/lib/gnome-panel/wnck-applet
> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_Wncklet_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=21
>  0.6 /usr/lib/notify-osd/notify-osd
>  0.7 gnome-panel
>  0.7 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
>  1.0 gnome-terminal
>  1.0 python /usr/lib/linuxmint/mintUpdate/mintUpdate.py
>  1.0 /usr/bin/X :0 -nr -verbose -auth
> /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-Y0s9LU/database -nolisten tcp vt7
>  2.1 pidgin
>  2.7 /usr/bin/python -c import orca.orca; orca.orca.main() --replace
>  3.3 nautilus
> 21.7 /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0.5/thunderbird-bin
> 39.8 /usr/lib/at-spi/at-spi-registryd
>
> It's interesting to note that Thunderbird seems to be using a lot of
> CPU at the moment this snapshot was taken, but Thunderbird isn't
> running most of the time when I have this problem. It's also
> interesting to note that at-spi-registryd and not Thunderbird is
> using quite a lot of memory at this same moment. Funny thing is that
> mint-update doesn't seem to factor into this equation at all
> according to ps.
>
> I hope I was able to help a little, so I know where to file a bug
> report and what to include in it. Sometimes, these things seem
> pretty hard to track down.
>
> ~Kyle
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