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Re: [orca-list] setting up alpine

Chris, may I suggest that when you say "believe me, it absolutely can't be done", you first research the issue a little, before being so certain, and possibly leading people astray?
I read your message in alpine, running under Orca, accessing this mail account through IMAP, sending via SMTP. Of course pine and alpine can handle IMAP and POP3--they wouldn't be much use otherwise. In fact, it's IMAP facilities are quite advansed. 

Go to setup, config, and enable "incoming folders collection".
Your folder collection will now have a collection for local folders (mail), and one for incoming folders (called, ironically, incoming folders).
Go into the incoming folders, press "a" to add a folder, and then control-G for help. It should tell you everything you want to know about adding an imap folder, or any other kind you can think of except MS Exchange.
If you just want to do a one-off, hit "g" from anywhere (unless goto is disabled in your config), and type something like: 

{mail.somehost.com/user=blabla/notls/novalidate-cert}inbox
To open the default folder on that host, with that username, in imap. If you want POP3, add "/pop3" inside the braces. 

Luke
On Sat, 7 Aug 2010, Chris Gilland wrote:
Believe me. I've looked at all the settings. There is absolutely no way to set your pop3 or imap login within Alpine. Yes, you most certainly can set your smtp, but not your incoming. That is where fetchmail or postfix comes in, as it then delivers the mail to your local mailbox in your home directory. 

Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Saunders" <trev saunders gmail com> 
To: <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 5:52 AM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] setting up alpine



Hi,

On Sat, Aug 07, 2010 at 03:59:59AM -0400, Chris Gilland wrote:
For one, Alpine is going to work better with Speakup than with Orca, however 
that isn't to say that you can't get some functionality with Orca.


yes, sadly it seems to be the caase that orca doesn't perform very
well in terminals.  I think a lot of it could be improved with fixes
in the terminal emulators, but I sort of wonder if the difference in
behavior desired between a terminal and gui screen reader isn't too
big for one appp.


You need to do a man page look up for fetchmail.

There is a file in your home directory that needs to be created called
.fetchmailrc.
You're also going to need something like postfix or sendmail. I personally 
prefer postfix as it is in my book, way easier to configure.


I think most of the people here who use terminal mail programs use
mutt I know I've seen alpine as Mike G's user agent, and I'm not sure
who else, so I'll let them anser this more.  While you can setup alpine to
use fetchmail and a smtp server like postfix sendmail exim etc, there
is no reason to do it this way, and a couple good reasons not to.  The
reasons not to are that fetchmail's interaction style doesn't allow
you to make use of imap in much of a useful way, also its much more
complicated.  Its been a long time since I looked at pine /alpine, but
I'm pretty sure if you go far enough into the settings there are
setting for imap /pop server smtp server password etc, I can't tell
you exactly how to do this though its been far too long.  I'm pretty sure
google can tell you how to do this though.

HTH

Trev



Thanks.

Chris.

-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On
Behalf Of michael weaver
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 2:24 AM
To: orca-list gnome org
Subject: [orca-list] setting up alpine
i have looked at the alpine mail program and it seems fairly accessible with 
orca.
however i can't seem to find the menue for entering my mail and news
settings.
maybe i am missing something obvious.
i used the up and down arrow keys and pressed enter on settings but i
couldn't find the correct options.
i presume i need to enter my email and news settings somewhere.
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