Re: [orca-list] feature request: disable live regions globally

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I like the idea of having the option to turn live regions on or off
and have the value saved permanently.  I also feel it should be on by
default so people are truely aware that live regions will speak and
are supported when needed.  The idea of being able to turn them off
but have a notification that a live region is present is an
interesting idea too.  Maybe it should be a ternary switch - on, off,
or notify.

I like the idea about possibly identifying counters and such but I
wonder if given the lack of development resources if this should be
given lower priority and thought of as a "nice but not critical"
feature.  Just my thought on it.

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:30:56AM +0100, Michael Whapples wrote:
I think such an option as you initially suggest would be good.
However I would possibly say if the user sets it not to announce
live regions by default then it would be useful for orca to announce
that there is a live region present.

As for the more complicated suggestion from Joannie, I like the idea
but it does sound a bit difficult, possibly inaccurate and also
could slow down orca. I guess I am saying at the moment I am
unconvinced of the value of that feature, I would need to see a
prototype running before really supporting it.

Michael Whapples
On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, Jacob Schmude wrote:
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Well, I wasn't actually proposing a change to the default, just a way to
set the options we currently have for live regions on a permanent rather
than a temporary basis.
I like the idea of trying to identify counters and shut them up, though
I'm not sure how practical this would realistically be. If something
like that was implemented, there'd also need to be a way to explicitly
mark (or unmark) a region as a counter when the heuristics were incorrect.

On 04/20/2010 08:33 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
Hi Jacob.

I'd like to put forward and idea for a feature request, and that is to
have an option in Orca's Firefox preferences dialog to globally disable
all live regions by default. Of late, I'm finding that most web pages I
visit use these for annoying statistics counters that are always
updating and seriously get in the way if they aren't turned off. I can't
actually think of one page that has used such live regions in a useful
way. As such, I always end up disabling them with shift-backslash anyway.

What does everyone think?
Once a consensus is reached, if you'll summarize the conclusions
(including what the default/initial value of this setting should be) in
a new RFE in bugzilla, I'd be happy to implement it.

Independent of the above "just get the blessed counters to shut the heck
up," it might also be interesting to see if we can heuristically
identify counters and ignore them even when live regions are enabled. If
you agree, that would be a separate RFE.

Take care.

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