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Re: [orca-list] Install gnome on archlinux audio

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- From what I've seen so far, it does not appear to have effect while in
the /etc folder.  I can try net-admin or whatever it's called to see
what happens.  It seemed to work when defined as .orbitrc in /root.
Frankly, I usually do all my admin stuff from the console but it is an
area that should be cleaned up or resolved or whatever.  I recall
before, setting up Orca so I could just login as root and not do
anything else special.  I would have thought the easiest way to go.

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:30:22PM +0100, Michael Whapples wrote:

Regarding the /etc/orbitrc file location, it seems to work fine on
the fedora liveCD, so I can't imagine why arch would work
differently. Also I seem to have a memory of seeing a document using
that location. Would be good to know whether you actually find that
location working for you.

Michael Whapples
On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:

Yes, I prefer su also.  I was surprised to see tha sudo wasn't
provided in the default base packages.  I added it later on explicitly
but haven't fully set it up yet.


When I was using the /etc/orbitrc file location, I don't think it was
having any effect.  I'll have to look further when I get more time.


On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 05:21:21PM +0100, Michael Whapples wrote:

Sorry for the slow and short reply. I dealt with the /etc/orbitrc
file location in another response, I think its just a choice thing
(globally over per user). As for the sudoers file, yes you would
need to edit that if you went with sudo, I think what I have done in
the tutorial only gets su on your system so sudo is not relevant (I
prefer using su).

Michael Whapples
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Hi,
I also have a question. Since I am used to other distros such as
Debian/Ubuntu. I also noticed that the orbitrc file was placed under
/etc and was just wondering if this is really correct?
Shouldn't it be placed under the root users home directory?
Also, shouldn't one edit some file sudors in the /etc directory?
Many thanks,
Christian

On 2010-04-09 at 12:02 Steve Holmes wrote:


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Hey, Michael,

I listened to your gnomeinstallation walkthrough yesterday and it was
pretty good; I wanted to compare what you did with the steps I
ultimately took last year when I installed gnome and orca.

I would like to point out some differences and ask a question or too
along the way.

1. Why do you prefer gamin over FAM? I ask that because FAM is
installed by default and automatically included with the combination
of gnome and gnome-extra.

2. I messed with that orbitrc file thing a bit and noted a couple
corrections that should probably be made.  the is .orbitrc with a dot
in front of the name and according to the wiki, should go in the /root
folder (root's home folder).  Also, it is v4=1 on the first line; I
heard in your presentation just 'v=1' so that may cause a problem.
When I made those changes on my system, I actually heard a dialog come
up indicating that a automatic access was being given to adminissrator
tools or some such.  Actually, I was trying to use root terminal and
that didn't work for me but after reading the wiki, I recall now that
I have to access these admin tools from a gnome terminal with sudo so
will have to play with this further later on today.

3. I didn't recall hearing much about gnome-system-tools before this
and discovered it had not been installed previously on my system to my
surprise; I'm surprised it isn't a part of the two main gnome groups
but it is in community so that might explain that.  What did you hear
about gnome-system-tools and why install them?  Just wondering.

4. How did you come about needing to install specific video drivers? I
just installed xorg if I recall prior to the gnome stuff.  In looking
around here, I see that I installed xf86-video-vesa at a later point
in time but can't remember why now :).

Other than that, it was a very interesting presentation.

On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 04:52:08PM +0100, Michael Whapples wrote:

Hello,
I said I would get it done, so here it is. I have just finished
recording an audio tutorial on installing gnome and getting started
with orca on archlinux. While the recording is about one hour and a
quarter, I have gnome running within the first half hour (I think),
so for those of you who know the basics of the gnome desktop and
orca you may choose to leave it once gnome is running.

I will say sorry for it seeming a bit disorganised, I was rushing to
get the recording done before I go away (the laptop has gone in the
bad before its had time to fully cool off). I do intend to possibly
do a bit of editing to rearrange parts of it, but as some have been
asking I thought put something out for people to initially get their
teeth into.

OK, where to get it? Here is the link:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/62v240

Now I did have comments where people complained that sendspace were
asking you to download a client, I don't think you need to if you
select the "Regular download" button.

I will admit I haven't tried downloading this particular file due to
time restrictions, but I will have the original files with me while
I am away, so if there is an issue I can try and get the file
uploaded again.

Finally, I will say if you have any suggestions for future tutorials
on using linux I can see what I can do (I intend to focus it on
using the computer as a desktop).

Michael Whapples

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The manual is at
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