Yes, I prefer su also. I was surprised to see tha sudo wasn't provided in the default base packages. I added it later on explicitly but haven't fully set it up yet. When I was using the /etc/orbitrc file location, I don't think it was having any effect. I'll have to look further when I get more time. On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 05:21:21PM +0100, Michael Whapples wrote:
Sorry for the slow and short reply. I dealt with the /etc/orbitrc file location in another response, I think its just a choice thing (globally over per user). As for the sudoers file, yes you would need to edit that if you went with sudo, I think what I have done in the tutorial only gets su on your system so sudo is not relevant (I prefer using su). Michael Whapples ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian" <christian08 runbox com> To: <steve holmes88 gmail com>; <orca-list gnome org> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [orca-list] Install gnome on archlinux audio Hi, I also have a question. Since I am used to other distros such as Debian/Ubuntu. I also noticed that the orbitrc file was placed under /etc and was just wondering if this is really correct? Shouldn't it be placed under the root users home directory? Also, shouldn't one edit some file sudors in the /etc directory? Many thanks, Christian On 2010-04-09 at 12:02 Steve Holmes wrote:-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hey, Michael, I listened to your gnomeinstallation walkthrough yesterday and it was pretty good; I wanted to compare what you did with the steps I ultimately took last year when I installed gnome and orca. I would like to point out some differences and ask a question or too along the way. 1. Why do you prefer gamin over FAM? I ask that because FAM is installed by default and automatically included with the combination of gnome and gnome-extra. 2. I messed with that orbitrc file thing a bit and noted a couple corrections that should probably be made. the is .orbitrc with a dot in front of the name and according to the wiki, should go in the /root folder (root's home folder). Also, it is v4=1 on the first line; I heard in your presentation just 'v=1' so that may cause a problem. When I made those changes on my system, I actually heard a dialog come up indicating that a automatic access was being given to adminissrator tools or some such. Actually, I was trying to use root terminal and that didn't work for me but after reading the wiki, I recall now that I have to access these admin tools from a gnome terminal with sudo so will have to play with this further later on today. 3. I didn't recall hearing much about gnome-system-tools before this and discovered it had not been installed previously on my system to my surprise; I'm surprised it isn't a part of the two main gnome groups but it is in community so that might explain that. What did you hear about gnome-system-tools and why install them? Just wondering. 4. How did you come about needing to install specific video drivers? I just installed xorg if I recall prior to the gnome stuff. In looking around here, I see that I installed xf86-video-vesa at a later point in time but can't remember why now :). Other than that, it was a very interesting presentation. On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 04:52:08PM +0100, Michael Whapples wrote:Hello, I said I would get it done, so here it is. I have just finished recording an audio tutorial on installing gnome and getting started with orca on archlinux. While the recording is about one hour and a quarter, I have gnome running within the first half hour (I think), so for those of you who know the basics of the gnome desktop and orca you may choose to leave it once gnome is running. I will say sorry for it seeming a bit disorganised, I was rushing to get the recording done before I go away (the laptop has gone in the bad before its had time to fully cool off). I do intend to possibly do a bit of editing to rearrange parts of it, but as some have been asking I thought put something out for people to initially get their teeth into. OK, where to get it? Here is the link: http://www.sendspace.com/file/62v240 Now I did have comments where people complained that sendspace were asking you to download a client, I don't think you need to if you select the "Regular download" button. I will admit I haven't tried downloading this particular file due to time restrictions, but I will have the original files with me while I am away, so if there is an issue I can try and get the file uploaded again. Finally, I will say if you have any suggestions for future tutorials on using linux I can see what I can do (I intend to focus it on using the computer as a desktop). Michael Whapples _______________________________________________ orca-list mailing list orca-list gnome org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. 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