Re: [orca-list] Moving forward on Firefox

[Jacob Schmude <j schmude gmail com>]

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Hi Steve
Yep, I'm using 3.6.3. I'm absolutely positive about this. My exact about
string reads as follows:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.3) Gecko/20100401
Firefox/3.6.3
As for the system integration, you can get that with the Mozilla binary
too. Give it a shot, maybe it'll work. At least if it does we know the
bug isn't in Firefox itself anymore.

On 04/06/2010 02:11 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> Humm, I wonder what the difference could be.  I can't get this thing to
> work at all on two different platforms but it seems to work for you
> <sigh>.  You're sure you're using 3.6.3?
>
> I might go out and download the strait binaries from Mozilla and remove
> the Arch Binary; hopefully the Arch package maintainer isn't doing
> something stupid to it.  Can't think of that possibility though.  though
> I saw some patches being applied in the PKGBUILD script but have no idea
> what for.  I like to use the package if possible because it gets
> maintained by the distro package maintenance routine and integrates well
> with gnome's internals such as spawning the program from e-mails and
> right clicking of links in gnome terminal.  But anyway,  Is the
> bookmarks organization library working for others as well?
>
> On 04/05/2010 11:03 PM, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> Hi Steve
> Nope, can't reproduce this one either, at all. I can arrow up and down
> through the folders without a hitch.
>
> On 04/06/2010 02:00 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>   
> > > > I just checked out the save bookmarks dialog and the problem persists
> > > > there also.  To repro this, press Ctrl-D to begin saving a bookmark.
> > > > Then tab over to the "show all folders" button and press it.  Now try
> > > > and arrow up and down through the provided list.  For me, focus jumps
> > > > out to the Done button.  I's just like the other dialog in behavior.
> > > > The little bit of messing around in FF 3.6.3 hasn't really shown me a
> > > > change at all in performance but I've been in here but a short while.
> > > >
> > > > This bookmark thing really means a lot to me and while broken, I must
> > > > remain with the older version til somebody figures what they broke and
> > > > can fix it.
> > > >
> > > > On 04/05/2010 01:36 PM, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> > > > Hi Steve
> > > > As of a few minor updates ago, the bookmarks dialog doesn't seem to be a
> > > > problem anymore. I'm running Firefox 3.6.3 on my Ubuntu systems and can
> > > > manipulate bookmarks just fine. This was a minor update to 3.6.2, though
> > > > I don't know exactly when. In fact, with the caret navigation now
> > > > working pretty well (sorry Bill, haven't had a chance yet to test your
> > > > patches out) and the bookmarks problem fixed, I've moved over to 3.6
> > > > completely. There are certain situations where 3.6 gives me noteable
> > > > performance improvements particularly when using some types of
> > > > structural navigation on complex pages.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 04/05/2010 07:47 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > > >
> > > >     
> > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 05:18:48AM -0400, Bill Cox wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >           
> > > > > > > > Yes, I believe the code that has been so problematic has been mostly
> > > > > > > > rewritten, and is now in much  better shape.  It is possible that we
> > > > > > > > could disable "Grab focus on objects when navigating", and "Use Orca
> > > > > > > > caret navigation".  I don't know what causes delays in Orca when
> > > > > > > > navigating large web pages, but I do think we need to improve the
> > > > > > > > performance if possible.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >              
> > > > > > > Yes, performance is a big issue.  I'm quite new to the developer side
> > > > > > > of Orca as I'm just learning python and using git with more advanced
> > > > > > > commands than 'clone'.  But thanks to the option to turn off grab
> > > > > > > focus, recently added to Orca, that basic part of FF 3.6 is workable
> > > > > > > again.  But another major concern for me has been the inability to
> > > > > > > organize bookmarks in 3.6x.  When you arrow around in the bookmarks
> > > > > > > organize dialog, focus constantly jumps out to the "More" button.  I
> > > > > > > find it nearly impossible to use that feature and furthermore, if you
> > > > > > > wish to save a bookmark, you can't pick and choose destination
> > > > > > > folders
> > > > > > > without the same navigation problems in that dialog.  For this
> > > > > > > reason,
> > > > > > > I've been sticking to version 3.5 for now.  I do realize I can't stay
> > > > > > > there forever so these things need to be worked out.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I do feel aprehensive about branching off to a stand-alone version of
> > > > > > > Firefox however; how easy would it be to get the
> > > > > > > improvement/corrections rolled back into the mainline product?  I
> > > > > > > don't wanna see us stuck with some "blind version" of the browser.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >            
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