Re: [orca-list] Cursor Tracking, Orca, and Braille

[John covici <covici ccs covici com>]

Using Brltty, you should be able to track the cursor, depending on the
display, put Brltty in learn mode and you should find a key
combination to follow the cursor.

on Friday 05/29/2009 Teresa Cochran(pipistrelle cox net) wrote
> Thanks, Will. I've tried to use the arrow emulation, but it doesn't
> work. I'd love to, though, especially considering the way columns are
> read (or not read) on web pages using flat review.. i.e. I have to read
> straight across the width of the screen, and that's a tad confusing.
>
> I'll follow this thread with interest, and thanks again.
>
> Teresa
>
> On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 08:32 -0400, Willie Walker wrote:
> > Hi Teresa:
> >
> > Aha - so, it sounds like what you're doing is using the flat review  
> > commands to navigate the content.  The flat review will only review the  
> > visible text on the window.
> >
> > Orca's flat review feature was not designed as the primary operating  
> > mode for Orca.  Instead, the focus tracking mode is the preferred (and  
> > default) mode.  With the the focus tracking mode, you navigate an  
> > application as any user would -- you'd use the built in keyboard  
> > navigation techniques for the application.  So, for Firefox, you'd use  
> > the arrow keys, page up/down keys, the built-in 'find' mechanism of  
> > Firefox, etc.
> >
> > BrlTTY apparently has some features to allow you to emulate keyboard  
> > keystrokes from the braille device itself, but I've never been quite  
> > able to figure out exactly how to make it work.  I came pretty close  
> > recently, but never got there fully.
> >
> > If someone on this list has some tips for how people can use their  
> > braille display to arrow and page around the content, please let us  
> > know.  We can try to document it on the WIKI.  In addition, if there is  
> > something Orca is currently doing to prevent you from doing this,  
> > please also let us know and we can try to enable it.
> >
> > Will
> >
> > On May 28, 2009, at 9:41 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, will,
> > >
> > > I'm using a Braille Lite 40, and I'm reading with the advance bars. I
> > > can't go past the bottom of the window, and sometimes I just have to  
> > > use
> > > the cursor-routing keys above the display characters. However, when I
> > > press the bar to advance, I hit the tool bar at the top of the window,
> > > and the text does not continue. It repeats the previous screen of text.
> > >
> > > I've sometimes successfully routed the cursor, then pressed numpad  
> > > minus
> > > to route the mouse pointer. This doesn't always work, and it also means
> > > navigating past the toolbar, address bar, and other window objects
> > > before I get to the text.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Teresa
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 17:51 -0400, Willie Walker wrote:
> > > > Hi Teresa:
> > > >
> > > > How are you navigating the web pages (i.e., what physical action on  
> > > > what
> > > > device are you performing)?
> > > >
> > > > Will
> > > >
> > > > Teresa Cochran wrote:
> > > > > Hello, folk,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm attempting to read web pages in firefox with Braille and Orca. It
> > > > > seems the Braille tracks the mouse pointer. Is there any way to have  
> > > > > it
> > > > > track the caret? If not, how can I scroll past the bottom of the  
> > > > > window
> > > > > or scroll the page down using Braille?
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks,
> > > > > Teresa
> > > > >
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