Re: [orca-list] Administrative program accessibility on OpenSuSE compared to Ubuntu

[Jacob Schmude <j schmude gmail com>]

Hi Luke
Interesting. The logout/shutdown dialogs are perfectly accessible on  
my 11.1 installation.
However, there's another nasty accessibility problem in 11.1 that  
affects any non-GTK application trying to use at-spi, such as Firefox,  
Openoffice, and Mono/Winforms. Due to a modified gnome component,  
these applications will not work with accessibility, they do not get  
exposed properly. I'm unsure if this is related to whatever change was  
made to allow easier admin access, but I mention it here in case it  
does. Those on the mono accessibility team hadn't, last I talked with  
them, been able to trace this down and hadn't heard anything about  
what the underlying problem was, but it's conceivably possible that,  
if they changed something to allow admin tools to work without a hack,  
it may have broken parts of at-spi's communication with orbit in the  
process.


On Mar 9, 2009, at 22:32, Luke Yelavich wrote:

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> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 01:14:49PM EST, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> > Hi Luke
> > Open Yast for a good example of this, although any administration
> > program will do--as Yast is the primary admin tool on OpenSUSE  
> > however
> > it's a good start. I haven't looked into OpenSUSE in great detail  
> > though
> > I do have it installed here, but their sudo acts very different from
> > most. You'll notice that it asks you for the root password, not your
> > password, and does so even from the terminal and not only from the  
> > GUI.
> > Perhaps they're not using standard sudo, or have set it up vastly
> > different from the way I've seen sudo being configured.
>
> Thanks, wil check that out.
>
> > There was also a post on the gnome-accessibility-list a while back  
> > from
> > someone at Novell who claimed they had patched Orbit so  
> > the .orbitrc hack
> > was no longer necessary. Perhaps they integrated this patch into
> > OpenSUSE? See this message:
> > ORBit change needs testing
> > The message seems to indicate that this patch was put into svn at  
> > that
> > time, but I'm not sure if that happened. The behavior of orbit in  
> > other
> > distros seems to indicate that it did not.
>
> Will check that out also.
>
> One thing I also noticed on the 11.1 OpenSuSE live CD is that the  
> logout/shutdown dialogs are not accessible either, so at least for  
> GNOME 2.2.4, the problem wasn't just Ubuntu.
>
> Luke
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