Re: [orca-list] Administrative program accessibility on OpenSuSE compared to Ubuntu



Hi, I only faced accessibility issues with the default installation of firefox on opensuse 11.1. Open Office has been perfectly accessible. I have downloaded the latest ff 3.06 release and ff works fine now.
Aruni.

On 10/03/09 08:08, Jacob Schmude wrote:
Hi Luke
Interesting. The logout/shutdown dialogs are perfectly accessible on my 11.1 installation. However, there's another nasty accessibility problem in 11.1 that affects any non-GTK application trying to use at-spi, such as Firefox, Openoffice, and Mono/Winforms. Due to a modified gnome component, these applications will not work with accessibility, they do not get exposed properly. I'm unsure if this is related to whatever change was made to allow easier admin access, but I mention it here in case it does. Those on the mono accessibility team hadn't, last I talked with them, been able to trace this down and hadn't heard anything about what the underlying problem was, but it's conceivably possible that, if they changed something to allow admin tools to work without a hack, it may have broken parts of at-spi's communication with orbit in the process.


On Mar 9, 2009, at 22:32, Luke Yelavich wrote:

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On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 01:14:49PM EST, Jacob Schmude wrote:
Hi Luke
Open Yast for a good example of this, although any administration
program will do--as Yast is the primary admin tool on OpenSUSE however
it's a good start. I haven't looked into OpenSUSE in great detail though
I do have it installed here, but their sudo acts very different from
most. You'll notice that it asks you for the root password, not your
password, and does so even from the terminal and not only from the GUI.
Perhaps they're not using standard sudo, or have set it up vastly
different from the way I've seen sudo being configured.

Thanks, wil check that out.

There was also a post on the gnome-accessibility-list a while back from
someone at Novell who claimed they had patched Orbit so the .orbitrc hack
was no longer necessary. Perhaps they integrated this patch into
OpenSUSE? See this message:
ORBit change needs testing
The message seems to indicate that this patch was put into svn at that
time, but I'm not sure if that happened. The behavior of orbit in other
distros seems to indicate that it did not.

Will check that out also.

One thing I also noticed on the 11.1 OpenSuSE live CD is that the logout/shutdown dialogs are not accessible either, so at least for GNOME 2.2.4, the problem wasn't just Ubuntu.

Luke
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