Re: [orca-list] Tables in Oo Writer

[Joanmarie Diggs <joanmarie diggs gmail com>]

Hey Steve.

Thanks for testing!

> I have a document with 12 rows and 3 columns.  The top row has titles
> like "Item", "My Price", and "Your Price".  Now if I go down a few
> rows and use the new structural nav keys to move left and right, I can
> only hear the headers spoken for the first two columns; the third
> column header is never spoken.

Hmmm. That's odd. I just tried it with one of my sample documents and
things worked as expected. (Isn't that always how it goes?) So let me
try to describe my document and what I'm doing and see if we can figure
out the differences.

My document is a sample calendar for one month. There are a couple of
lines of text above and below the table. The table itself has seven
columns, one for each day of the week. The first row has "Sun", "Mon",
"Tue" and so on. In the cells below, are numeric dates.

Here's what I did:

1. Arrowed into the first row (i.e. the row with the day names which I
want to be treated as headers).

2. Pressed Orca + R. Orca announces that the dynamic column headers are
set for row 1.

3. I arrowed down into one of the rows with numeric dates and pressed
Tab and Shift+Tab to move from cell to cell (i.e. not using structural
navigation). Orca announces the "Sun", "Mon", etc. as appropriate for
the new column as I move left to right or right to left. If I move up or
down (i.e. with plain arrow keys) column headers are not announced
because I have not changed columns.

4. I pressed Orca + Z to turn on structural navigation. (Orca confirmed
it had been toggled on.)

5. I used Orca + Shift + the arrow keys to move around. As I did, Orca
spoke the days of the week as I moved left or right; not when I moved up
or down.

6. Both with tabbing and with structural navigation, I was able to move
to all of the edges of the table and have the header spoken as
appropriate.

So.... What is different about your table and/or the commands you're
using? If we seem to be doing the same thing but getting different
results, it would be awesome if you could attach the offending table and
a full debug.out to a new bug. Thanks!

> This seems to happen whether I
> predefined the dynamic headers with Orca or not.  

This part puzzles me. If you have not predefined the dynamic headers,
Orca should not be speaking them because it should not have any idea
where or what they are. <smile> I can confirm that we are not speaking
headers in my sample case until I have set them. Also, if I later clear
them (with Orca + R twice quickly), Orca stops announcing the headers.
If you're always getting headers spoken even though you haven't defined
them, please file a new bug with the table and debug.out.

> that I'm using.  I thought one might need to somehow define the table
> row in question to be a header or something.

You do. See my step #2 above.

I hope this helps. Let us know.
--Joanie