Re: [orca-list] gnome-accessibility food fight

[Jude DaShiell <jdashiel shellworld net>]

Sure!  Recording for the blind has several editions of "Exploring Unix" I 
used I think the 2nd edition when I learned.  But if you're on a debian 
system that has say speakup installed, you need the debian-reference 
package installed.  You just run debian-reference by typing its name at 
the command prompt and your browser starts up and you can read and learn. 
It will have you download several other packages and you'll be able to use 
each in turn and get effective as a sysadmin on the command line interface 
level.  If using slackware, http://slackbook.org is your friend.  Much of 
the stuff you learn from slackbook can also be used in any other Linux 
environment.  If you have a bsd system you can get the learn utility and 
install it and run it.  That teaches unix/linux in a computer-assisted 
instructional environment.  You can't hurt anything in that environment 
because you're in a sandbox and what you do only happens to copies of 
files.



On Sun, 31 May 2009, hank smith wrote:

> got any books for dumbies you know the ones who don't really use command line 
> and who really never touched such a interface? refering to myself
> there any easy non jargan stuff I could read?
> thanks
> Hank
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel shellworld net>
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> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 4:03 PM
> Subject: [orca-list] gnome-accessibility food fight
>
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> >  This happened for those of us using debian squeeze distribution May 29,
> >  2009.  Basicly, other parts of gnome got updated to a point where they're
> >  no longer compatible with gnome-accessibility and this had left orca
> >  inoperable and speechless for the last week or so.  It wasn't until the
> >  29th that I found out why while doing updates.  Most times when packages
> >  get updated these days it's for security reasons earlier in software life
> >  cycles when concentration on security wasn't so heavy updates brought new
> >  features with them.  This is especially true for what Microsoft releases
> >  perhaps less so for other operating systems.  Gnome-accessibility
> >  debian/squeeze flavor at least will be ready when it's ready and I'm quite
> >  willing to be patient.  Another reason for my willingness to be patient is
> >  I spent some time learning Linux command line interface and also installed
> >  stuff on systems that will run in command line interface mode without
> >  reference to or need for graphical user interfaces or their libraries. The
> >  moral of this story for anyone new to Linux or about to be new to Linux is
> >  to spend as much time learning command line interface as they do graphical
> >  user interface because sooner or later one of these gnomish food fights
> >  will happen and when that happens they will still have an ability to use
> >  their computer allbeit through command line interface.
> >
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