Re: [orca-list] debian vs. ubuntu



thanks i'll take a look
----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Roberts" <bigd vi guy gmail com>
To: "ashley" <ash cox talktalk net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] debian vs. ubuntu


There is also a text one, but no software speech to go with it.

HTH
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----- Original Message ----- From: "ashley" <ash cox talktalk net>
To: "Michael Whapples" <mwhapples aim com>
Cc: <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] debian vs. ubuntu


yes, i ment no installer using orca. The debian install (i think) is
graphical, and it is good for people who don't like or know command line
to at least be able to install there system before learning.

But yes, grml is a good distribution! I've not managed to get gnome to
start, but the actual system seams to work.

ashley
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Whapples" <mwhapples aim com>
To: <Orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] debian vs. ubuntu


Why do you need the sighted assistance to install debian? GRML as well
as installing GRML to HD can install plain debian, look at the
grml-debootstrap command http://grml.org/grml-debootstrap/ for details.

When you said there is no installer for debian with software speech, did
you mean no installer using orca.

Michael Whapples
On -10/01/37 20:59, Ashley Cox wrote:
<div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">    Yes,
the live cd will have a install icon on the desktop.

You could also install debian with sighted help, then do the following:

go into terminal

do:
sudo apt-get update
sudo aptitude update
sudo apt-get install gnome-orca.

this will find all packages, including espeak and festival.

hth.

ashley
On 1 Jun 2009, at 10:43, hank smith wrote:

when you get this done can you also tell us how to install to hard
drive?
----- Original Message ----- From: "ashley" <ash cox talktalk net>
To: "Jason Fayre" <jfayre gmail com>
Cc: <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] debian vs. ubuntu


Hi.

Good choise! Debian is better than ubuntu. Its much faster and
easier to use. At the moment, there is no debian install with
software speech as far as I know. But i'm working on a pure debian
live cd with only orca and espeak. This means that it won't be the
same as vinux, it will be a standard debian install with software
speech support.

ashley
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Fayre" <jfayre gmail com>
To: <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 2:14 AM
Subject: [orca-list] debian vs. ubuntu


Hi,
I am considering switching my netbook over to Debian Lenny.  Does
anyone
know if it is possible to do an accessible install of Debian?  I
don't
have easy access to a braille display, so I will need to use software
speech.
I read somewhere that Orca doesn't get installed by default.  Is
there
any way of doing this as a blind person?

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